# Is the hadith of the crying tree trunk authentic?

*The chains of the crying tree reports examined*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/rm4jhswj_um/s/3/
- Date: 2018-02-09 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Hadiths on Prophetic Miracles and Responding to Claims of Blasphemy - Mufti Abu Layth al Maliki (7:38–16:30)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM4jHsWJ_uM&t=458s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/rm4jhswj_um/

**Topics:** Narrator criticism; Reports that disrespect the Prophet; Sahih al-Bukhari (BukhariGate)

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** No: Mufti Abu Layth finds weak narrators in each chain, including those in al-Bukhari, and says only the Quran is preserved in its entirety.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says the stories of the tree crying for the Prophet are unreliable.

**Evidence, his words at 9:30:** “the tree started crying and the Prophet came and put his hand on it these things are unreliable these stories” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM4jHsWJ_uM&t=570s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth goes through the chains of the report, narrated from Jabir and Anas, that a tree cried when the Prophet moved to a new minbar. Mufti says a narrator in one of al-Bukhari's chains, the son of Ayman [?], was not relied on by Abu Hatim al-Razi [?], and that his father was unknown and problematic according to al-Dhahabi [?]. For another chain in al-Bukhari through Isma'il ibn Abi Uways and his brother, he cites Yahya ibn Ma'in [?] and al-Nasa'i declaring them weak and Ibn Abd al-Barr [?] calling such reports weak, while saying he loves Isma'il as a person. He then criticises further chains, in al-Tirmidhi and through Ubayy ibn Ka'b in other collections including al-Shafi'i's, and concludes that being in al-Bukhari does not make a report protected, since only the Book of Allah is preserved in its entirety and the hadith scholars, though excellent, were not infallible.

## Sources and names cited

- report: the tree crying for the prophet
- minbar
- Jabir ibn Abdullah
- Anas ibn Malik
- Sahih al-Bukhari
- Abu Hatim al-Razi [?]
- al-Dhahabi [?]
- Isma'il ibn Abi Uways
- Abd al-Hamid ibn Abi Uways [?]
- Yahya ibn Ma'in [?]
- al-Nasa'i
- Ibn Abd al-Barr [?]
- al-Tirmidhi
- Ubayy ibn Ka'b
- al-Shafi'i

## Transcript (machine tier, 7:38–16:30)

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[7:37] give you an example so this chain of hadith for example that let's take the hadith of Jabbar that the Prophet had this tree that used to cry and make sounds and scream and stuff like this now this a hadith that Buhari transmits from aurora great hadith known as a benign who transmits from Abdullah he didn't Ayman al Habashi from his father a manner Habashi I'm assuming from jabya now let's just take that one as an example in this chain after what he did nabi Ayman sorry

[8:17] Abdullah he did naman scholars have said about him abou haughty Marazzi when his son asks him about Abdullah head even Ayman he says yes we write his hadith his son asked him do we rely on up the rides hadith as evidence Hal you had Juba ha and he says no in a mire that Juba hadith is of yarn Walker though we can document them but he doesn't consider them reliable okay let's he's transmitting from his

[8:53] father Ayman al Hakim assuming who is Amon as Lobby says the Amon Lemurian who allow a little only his son of the ride is the only person to transmit from he says to me this person is unreliable fajita hala even if some people declared him to be okay but to me he's problematic there you go people that chain is that chain is problematic let's take a look at another

[9:30] chain once again in Bihari this chain this hadith is to do with from jab it again about there being a tree in the same incident the tree used to cry and make sounds and things like this because they turned it into a member and because they were gonna turn it into a member the tree started crying and the Prophet came and put his hand on it these things are unreliable these stories this Bihari says is my live Nabi Owais transmits this from his brother who is Abdul Hameed Abu Bakr naboo waist who transmits this from Solomon if Nabil al from from

[10:09] Yamini Syed from half Sigma obey the lugnut Ana's who is the great grandson of aniseed nomadic the Sahabi so half says who hears it from jebin now first of all halves the grandson of Anna's what does Apple heard him say about him a Behati Marazzi he says Larry yes butl Osama Allah under Deanna's we only know of him to transmit from anis radi allahu on not from any other Sahabi he says I don't the fact he transmits from Geritol

[10:49] Ayesha we do not know this to be established let's not stop this who is Bihari transmitting from the first person in the chain is my lip Nabi aways second person in the chain his brother is smile from his brother over corruptor comedic Nabil ways both of them are declared naive week by yagna marine and then on top of that message right on top of that nursery declares is my lead not be a voice to be weak about the hood did not used to like the narrations of it's my live now be a waste and I've rate is my love never be a

[11:28] waste as a person I love him but I'm being objective here even even abdill bar in his commentary on the term he'd says that these are weak or what we cruet right so even if Buhari accepted them many of them had the thing did not accept them many of them had the thing did not accept them in fact yeah he attained would say that there were three households that he would openly reject openly reject these households amongst them the household of our even awesome amongst them the household of Al Arabiya

[12:04] wastes and always all of the offspring from owaisi's family he had managed to declare them naive he's to declare them live this hadith unacceptable Buhari accepted it that's fine other Oh Lamar didn't write let me give you another example right now they say hadith from an asymptomatic on this same incident about the tree so the transit its intermediate term ad says Mahmoud

[12:43] Maryland tells him from home Rebney Yunus from a cro-magnon mark from is half of the lightener batalha from anis throw the Aloha on right now let's just take a look at this chain straight away straight away economic man straight away a crime even imam ali a mommy and a jelly right he is bihari says sahib o monarchy although term it is accepting him Buhari isn't accepting him he calls him monka he transmits monk

[13:20] rewired what does I would out say about him horrible hadith his a hadith have if there are life out let's take a look at another example right who pay even a cab this is a hadith from oh babe niqab it's transmitted in a few books enable major in the Muslim department by Imam Shafi'i as well chef is chain is chef Ian ibrahim abu mohammed from abdullah muhammad even appeal from to fail ignore beiieve niqab from his father away even

[13:55] a cab okay now this hadith if you look at it let's just take a look straight there up to live no Mohammed evening are till after lightning Mohammed Amin RT right who is the grandson of a deal if Nabi talib radiyallahu anh so Muhammad did not the lighten our key yeah even my naive declares him naive in hadith at the Hobby says layer 30 a ladder gentle active judge was a ha he is not of a standard of reliability and although Ahmed and even imagining a

[14:35] chain from another are we obey the lightener Amer a rocky right who there is some Kalam in arguably he's a trustworthy narrator but people like if NASA had said he's Cathedral hadith sadaq war Obama after and maybe he makes some mistakes but even even who they bringing their change from obey the lightener a Marathi from Raqqa back in the day obviously is classic he's too transmits from obey the live no Muhammad did not heal who we've already said according to

[15:12] your human mind is by right so people these are for I mean right there are given you six narrations all life right unreliable so this is important to understand that just because somebody says that just sorry my John sorry right so just because somebody says this hadith is in Buhari doesn't make it protect it doesn't make it yes Buhari is an

[15:51] excellent job Bernal a smiley like either only the Book of Allah is entirely in its entirety we believe as Muslims to be preserved a hadith they've had an excellent job but they are not infallible okay now so that's the other thing is I want to touch upon here is look these people insinuating that I may have been blasphemous to the Companions right so guys pay attention to this I

[16:29] want you to focus on these focus focus focus right so some people saying that look you right don't ya don't kind of just troll the thing anybody troll in the comment section is gonna get blocked do do I use Brylcreem no I don't right so now people saying to me that look owed you maybe by saying some of the Companions you know first of all I don't believe these narrations to be authentic .

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment RM4jHsWJ_uM/s/3. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/rm4jhswj_um/s/3/

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