# Can I blindly follow scholars in matters of belief? *Blind following in belief, and whether a Maliki majority is ijma'* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/qaxeur-uxvo/s/2/ - Date: 2021-02-14 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Caller runs off from the debate - Will Jesus Return | Mufti Abu Layth (8:13–13:50) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXeuR-UXvo&t=493s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/qaxeur-uxvo/ **Topics:** Schools of law and following them; Creed and the schools of theology; The second coming of Jesus **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** No: Mufti Abu Layth says blind following in belief is forbidden by scholarly consensus, and the majority of one school is not ijma'. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says it is forbidden, by the consensus of the scholars, to blindly follow others in matters of belief. **Evidence, his words at 9:29:** “this is adida 101 right it's not even one of you it is haram by isma of ulama of islam to blindly follow in just believing in one god” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXeuR-UXvo&t=569s) ## Longer summary In a further exchange, Mufti Abu Layth asks the caller why he treats the Maliki scholars as an authority when they also held that taking slaves was fine, and says Muslims do not worship scholars. When the caller says the major Maliki scholars believed in the return of Jesus, Mufti asks whether blind following (taqlid) is allowed in belief, and says it is forbidden by the consensus of the scholars to believe something merely because someone said it. He argues that an agreement of the Maliki school alone carries no weight, since ijma' is the consensus of the whole ummah, and asks whether truth in Islam is established by a democratic vote. Mufti returns to the hadith of Jesus offering Islam or the sword, says it clashes with the Quran, and remarks that the caller runs off when the evidence is discussed. ## Sources and names cited - no taqlid in matters of creed - taqlid (blind following) - ijma' - Maliki school - Isa (Jesus) - report: when jesus descends the people are offered islam or the sword ## Transcript (machine tier, 8:13–13:50) [8:12] [Laughter] is a misguided individual but they've also believed that to take people as slaves is fine do you believe why are you why are you a maliki then what's the point of being malignant yeah the purpose of maliki is the legacy it's not to worship y'all no you believe now let me ask you since you're quoting others as an authority do you accept him as an authority i'm i'm not a malaysian i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm speaking to you i'm speaking on [8:52] your ground let me ask you which scholar do you accept as an utmost authority that whatever he says girls uh that doesn't matter we're not talking about me this is your channel right if you want to come on my channel you're more than welcome no it's okay for you to recognize that we don't worship scholars but you expect me who's actually trained in the sharia to worship all the young just because i rate and respect him no but it's not just you're not missing my point it's not just all of the malaki scholars all the major monarchy scholars believe okay why are you in 2020 coming with the difference right first of all i'm not coming in 2020. [9:29] first of all i want to clear one thing are we allowed to blindfollow in belief matters yes are you allowed to blindly follow in akita that there's one god it's in this it's it's a part of the quran this is the basic following blindly follow that you do know that that's a fundamental you are absolutely wrong by the way you clearly do this is adida 101 right it's not even one of you it is haram [10:07] by isma of ulama of islam to blindly follow in just believing in one god you have to believe that's not belief if i just say i believe because you said it you say i believe in one god yeah whatever you say i believe your belief is my belief that that is bs that's unacceptable yeah i never i never said that i said you have to believe that that's what you believe i asked you can you blind follow me [10:37] very clearly live stream that it's okay to blindly follow in beliefs so okay so it's haram to blindly following no i never said that i never said that i said in uh in beliefs like so in arabia is it is a mutterwater belief to believe that it's been it's been transmitted by many of them is it okay to blindly follow in akida or do you have to believe it yourself you have to believe it yourself okay so why are you so the fact you're asking me to blindly follow [11:15] just because such and such said it is that not a contradiction with the akita of islam i'm saying in in the news of isa what you're saying to me it's haram to blindly follow which the ulama actually say by the way it's haram to blindly following so now if it's haram to blindly follow that means i don't believe it but just because xyz said it i'm gonna say i i don't know what it is i'm just saying whatever they said okay on this is it on this issue is there his map oh right so what what is the ichima on the nozzle yes there on is [11:55] do you feel there is i'm just asking you maybe you know more than me right so do first of all right the the the fact that you're asking this what is what what is the definition of ijmat in the maliki school is mountains would that even be if it's only any of the malady okay let me just ask you for the public right means consensus and by consensus you mean something that carries weight within sharia it cannot be kind of just you can't just ignore it it's a compelling argument it's compelling evidence right so ichima is only ishmael of the ummah there is [12:33] saying this each month this gang doesn't mean anything in islam it's not the ichima of the malikiyah that's ridiculous that's as dumb as it gets that's my definition school in the maliki school that's true is this the majority the majority of the scholars in the melody school okay is the truth democratic is the truth democratic is islam established by democracy what kind of question is that because you said that the majority have voted for this so is this how we establish truth in islam falsehood and truth we establish it by a democratic vote no we should we should [13:12] establish it by proofs and evidence so let's go to the evidence let's go to the hadith the hadith says that jesus will come and he will give people two options he will either give them iman you can choose islam or you can be put to the sword this clashes with the quran like do you accept this kind of an islam would be okay for jesus to come and forth [Laughter] you know in the words of john ilia [Laughter] whenever we're speaking about something right he runs off ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment QAXeuR-UXvo/s/2. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/qaxeur-uxvo/s/2/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.