# Can reports from Shia sources about Hasan and Husayn be trusted?

*Rejecting the Hasan and Husayn reports because they are Shia: Imran ibn Hittan and Bukhari's double standard*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/pkjtq8axgre/s/9/
- Date: 2019-07-24 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Holistic Overview: Can Men Wear Earrings? -Mufti Abu Layth (31:22–36:38)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkjtq8AXGRE&t=1882s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/pkjtq8axgre/

**Topics:** Narrator criticism; Sunni-Shia dialogue; Jewellery, gold and silk for men

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth accepts the reports as factual, saying the Shia had no reason to invent earrings for their own Imams, and calls it hypocrisy that Sunnis accept Imran ibn Hittan, a Khariji who praised Ali's killer, as a narrator in Sahih al-Bukhari while rejecting anything from Imam Jafar al-Sadiq.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says he believes Hasan and Husayn wore earrings, that dismissing every Shia report as a lie is prejudice, and that accepting the Khariji narrator Imran ibn Hittan, who praised Ali's killer, in Sahih al-Bukhari while rejecting Imam Jafar's reports is a hypocrisy.

**Evidence, his words at 36:09:** “we can't take from imam ja'far or any of the Shia Imams if it's in a Shia book when they're describing that Hussein used to wear earrings why oh because it's coming from that's just stupid” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkjtq8AXGRE&t=2169s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth takes up the objection that the reports of Hasan and Husayn wearing earrings come from Shia sources. He accepts that they do and says he himself believes the two Imams wore earrings, but argues that the rule that everything the Shia transmit must be a lie is biased and prejudiced: there is no reason the Shia or Imam Jafar, transmitting about his own great-great-grandfather, would invent something like earrings to discredit their own Imams and the Prophet's grandsons, so such reports only make sense if factual, though nobody is obliged to believe them. He then makes a comparison: Imran ibn Hittan, a leading Khariji of his time from the Tabi'un, is used as a narrator by al-Bukhari in more than one place, yet, as Ibn Hajar records in Fath al-Bari, he openly praised Ibn Muljam for killing Ali, with a famous poem calling the fatal strike one full of taqwa, and Bukhari accepted him as one of the worshipping people of this ummah. Mufti says he disagrees with the Shia on their points and his videos are clear on his stance regarding the companions, whom he calls all great and close to the Prophet, but asks whether a narrator who wrote poems praising the murderer of Umar would be accepted, and says accepting Imran ibn Hittan while refusing anything from Imam Jafar or the Shia Imams about Husayn's earrings is a hypocrisy, drowned in prejudice, that understandably infuriates the Shia. He notes that Ibn Hajar reports some saying Imran repented while others deny it, and closes by recalling that great muhaddithin and imams such as the Abu Ya'la narrator, Sufyan ibn Uyayna and Imam Malik wore earrings.

## Sources and names cited

- Hasan ibn Ali
- Husayn ibn Ali
- Imam Jafar al-Sadiq
- Shia
- Imran ibn Hittan
- Khawarij
- Imam al-Bukhari
- Sahih al-Bukhari
- Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
- Fath al-Bari
- Ibn Muljam
- Ali ibn Abi Talib
- Umar ibn al-Khattab
- Sufyan ibn Uyayna
- Imam Malik

## Transcript (machine tier, 31:22–36:38)

[31:01] wearing eyeliner like soorma this many people claim many men religious men in the indo-pak world we eyeliner now you would think Imam Ali didn't like it because he said it's not Sunnah this was just something done for medicinal purposes yet these people feel there's no problem in men wearing eyeliner which is definitely effeminate today so you see these things are simply cultural matters another issue somebody may state is that you said Imam Hasan and Husayn wore

[31:40] earrings which they did I do actually believe that Imam Hussain and mum has sent more earrings now people may say yes but that is transmitted by the Shia sources and I would say yes that's true it is transmitted by the Shia sources so they would say what we can't accept anything but from the Shia but I would ask you look listen let's be honest let's be honest why can't like this rule everything that she are saying must be a lie is so ridiculous it's so biased it's so

[32:18] prejudiced that we happen to be the lucky ones that have everything everything that why would the Shia say something like that about Imam Hussain why like why would they transmit why would Imam Jafar in his with the teacher of Imam Malik who's the teacher in in the books transmitted from Husain his great-great-grandfather why would he do that saying something like earrings unless they were actually factual it makes no sense for them to discredit their own Imams their own ancestors the grandsons of the Prophet makes no sense

[32:55] and then if you to say well how can we accept this narration I don't believe it look nobody's telling you to believe it but let me make a point here let me make a point look there is a Rowi there is a narrator by the name of Imran even ahead Bom right this guy is one of the leading corage of his time leaving what it all this time he's from the turban in Iran yeah he is used by Bihari on more than one occasion in his hadith at least to come to my mind straightaway where he is being quoted by Imam Bihari he is one of the people Imam Hadi uses

[33:34] as a narrator as in his trustworthy this guy would openly openly at the Serie alarm in Urbana if you read fertile bird even a hundred statement on him this guy would openly praise abnormal Jim for killing Sedna a leader of the Aloha openly in fact he has a very famous poem saying that when he struck Ally in the head to kill him that strike was a strike full of taqwa I'm like it's blessed and so on and so forth he would openly say these things yet body took from him Bihari said oh he's he's okay

[34:12] because he was from the worshipping people of this Ummah what kind of let's be honest people I want to ask you a question I'm not sure I disagree with the Shia on their points I support you know the stance of and my videos are very clear for how we are all the Aloha on you know I'm not and the Shia know this about me I'm not kind of but let's be honest if we had somebody praising look I'm a juicy for killing rommel or the Elan let's say this a narrator in the turban who writes poems praising the murderer of Rama would we

[34:51] accept him so why do we accept the the one who's praising the person who murdered I literally lon like this is just this is just ridiculous like we are just so drowned in prejudice and bias the point is that anybody these were all great companions you know said in highly said in Omar I believe these were all great companions of the Prophet they were all very close to prophet said nah he was murdered by bonamo Jim some guy openly praises him and he remains praising him till his deathbed in fact if not had your rights infertile

[35:30] body some people said he did Toba this guy says no he didn't he says they had a bodied now we get Buhari accepts him so we accept him Yahveh apnic haram nemanja you know the hypocrisy that we have and this is why it infuriates a lot of the Shia people but can you blame them because here's a guy who's killed Satan eilean here's somebody who's follows that person and praises him all the time write poetry not only praising him but praising that he killed Ali and then suddenly say yeah this guy is fine we

[36:09] can take from him but we can't take from imam ja'far or any of the Shia Imams if it's in a Shia book when they're describing that Hussein used to wear earrings why oh because it's coming from that's just stupid let's just be honest I'm trying to be fitted so and then the fact that many of these ingrate Mohideen Imam wore these earrings like a bloomin heart sufyani be Narayana in mom Miley called and there's a very interesting statement in a book by it's by evening Adama I believe in his tawa being where he states one of the most pious people he

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment pkjtq8AXGRE/s/9. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/pkjtq8axgre/s/9/

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