# Summary of the case against a second coming; Ibn Hazm on hadith against reason

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/38/
- Date: 2018-03-13 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: PRELUDE: Why There Is NO 2nd Coming Of Jesus (as) In Islam- Mufti Abu Layth (2:19:16–2:21:55)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzYu3BKBWE&t=8356s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/

**Topics:** The second coming of Jesus; Text criticism, reason and the Quran; End times and the Day of Judgement

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** There is no second coming of Jesus in Islam: the reports contradict the Quran, Sunnah and principles, are single-transmitter reports not creed, contradict each other, parallel the Bible, and are absent from the Quran and the Prophet's definition of faith.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth sums up that the reports of Jesus's return conflict with the Quran, the Sunnah and established principles, are single-transmitter reports rather than creed, contradict one another and echo Christian narratives, and that the Prophet did not mention Jesus when asked about faith or the signs of the hour.

**Evidence, his words at 2:19:16:** “when we look at the details of these hadith we find them conflicting with the overall message of the Quran with the overall message of the Sunnah and with the established principles in Islam” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzYu3BKBWE&t=8356s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth summarises: first, the details of these hadith conflict with the overall message of the Quran, the Sunnah and the established principles of Islam; second, they are established through khabar al-ahad, single-transmitter reports, and are not part of aqidah as people have made them; third, the narrations contradict each other massively, on Constantinople, on whether the Dajjal was alive in the Prophet's time or born later, on the Prophet suspecting Ibn Sayyad without mentioning Jesus, and on a Dajjal every prophet warned of who melts like salt; fourth, the Christian narrative of Mount Sinai and Damascus, which became the setting once the capital moved there; and fifth, the Prophet, asked by Jibril about faith and the signs of the hour, did not mention Jesus. He then calls for a realistic approach to hadith in the manner of Malik and Abu Hanifa: the scholars did the best job they could in preserving them, but reports that clash with the principles must be set aside. He quotes Ibn Hazm that every hadith which goes against reason, the Quran or the principles of Islam is to be known as fabricated, and begins the remark that one need not even check its narrators.

## Sources and names cited

- khabar al-ahad
- Ibn Hazm
- Imam Malik
- Abu Hanifa
- report: jibril asks the prophet about iman and the signs of the hour
- a hadith must not contradict reason, the Quran and established Sunnah, or uproot a principle of Islam
- single-transmitter reports do not establish creed

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:19:16–2:21:55)

[2:18:58] people Quran and the Sunnah the Quran and the Sunnah so look my point isn't to I want to retry something does this one when you look at this to sum this up when we look at the overall message of these a hadith we find it conflicting with the sorry when we look at the details of these hadith we find them conflicting with the overall message of the Quran with the overall message of the Sunnah and with the established principles in Islam we saw so that's an issue secondly these things are established through hobro are hard they are not part of a feeder the

[2:19:36] way people have made them okay so just to kind of establish just to kind of summarize these points thirdly these narrations contradict each other massively things like once Muslims conquer Constantinople the jail will come and Jesus will be here but then that's happened hundreds of years ago other narrations saying oh that the job was already the other naration saying no the job will be born later on other narrations saying oh the the Prophet thought that the job was a Jew and then him saying don't worry I'll take care of him not mentioning visas other narrations saying every prophet warned

[2:20:15] about this dejar but then this the journal is such an anti-climax because the moment Jesus comes he just melts like snot like salt so it's like was that it really you know that was all that was gonna take and so so when you start looking at all of these things and all these miracles and then and also the Christian narrative of Mount Sinai Damascus all of sudden Damascus is interesting why Damascus become so interesting once the Muslims move the capital after a few decades to Damascus all of a sudden this hadith everything's happening in Damascus all of a sudden you know it's interesting that whoa okay

[2:20:52] you know but when the Prophet is asked by the angel jibreel what is faith he doesn't mention Jesus when he's asked about the hour what are the signs of the hour he doesn't mention Jesus so these are some things that I've kind of highlighted in showing okay after that I want to reiterate the fact that look let's be realistic when it comes to Hadi let's have a very real approach the way in my Malik did the way imam abu hanifa did write that look hadith or brilliant all amount and an excellent they've done the best job they could in preserving them but we have to accept if I had

[2:21:32] these clashes as they've taught with these principles and in fact it was actually a quote of evening Hanson which is worth reading actually it was interesting that even a hasn't said cool or hadith in rr8 oh you Holly film are cool every hadith you see which goes against reason or in our table a soul or approach the principle of Islam unknown model know that it is fabricated fanatical affair Tamara who well at about Roberta who do not even bother checking about the narrator's he says what out on the feature Haim you don't even need to look at the chains being weak because no it is fabricated this

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment NHzYu3BKBWE/s/38. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/38/

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