# Shawkani against claimed consensus: music, following a madhhab, four wives, raf' al-yadayn

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/30/
- Date: 2018-03-13 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: PRELUDE: Why There Is NO 2nd Coming Of Jesus (as) In Islam- Mufti Abu Layth (1:53:04–1:56:59)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzYu3BKBWE&t=6784s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/

**Topics:** Legal theory and method; Mutawatir and certainty; Schools of law and following them

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Those who cite Shawkani's claim that the return is mutawatir do not follow him when he rejects other consensuses or calls raf' al-yadayn mutawatir; claimed consensuses have been overturned before.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says Shawkani's claim that the return of Jesus is mutawatir cannot bind when Shawkani himself rejected claimed consensuses on music, following a madhhab and marrying more than four wives, and those who cite him ignore him elsewhere.

**Evidence, his words at 1:55:17:** “so this point is look you yourselves don't agree with show Connie show Connie himself goes against all” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzYu3BKBWE&t=6917s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth says he loves al-Shawkani but disagrees with him on this point, and shows that Shawkani himself went against claimed consensuses: the ijma that musical instruments are haram reported by Hanafi and Shafi'i scholars; the ijma, recorded by al-Nawawi and others, that one must follow one of the four madhhabs; and the ijma reported by Ibn Hajar, al-Shafi'i, Ibn Qudama, al-Nawawi and al-Qurtubi that a man may not marry more than four wives, which Shawkani permitted, calling the contrary hadith weak, with Siddiq Hasan Khan agreeing in his commentary. He adds, warning that people will be upset, that Shawkani also went against the claimed consensus on anal intercourse in marriage, a point Mufti had earlier cited to show diversity. He notes Shawkani held raising the hands in prayer to be mutawatir from over thirty companions, yet those who quote him on Jesus do not adopt it. He then turns to the belief that the Prophet's parents are in the Fire, which most early scholars accepted on the basis of a hadith in Sahih Muslim, with al-Nawawi titling a chapter accordingly and Mulla Ali al-Qari writing a book claiming ijma on it, as did Ibrahim al-Halabi.

## Sources and names cited

- al-Shawkani
- al-Nawawi
- Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
- al-Shafi'i
- Ibn Qudama
- al-Qurtubi
- Siddiq Hasan Khan
- Mulla Ali al-Qari
- Ibrahim al-Halabi
- ijma'
- mutawatir
- Sahih Muslim
- report: the parents of the prophet are in the fire

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:53:04–1:56:59)

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[1:54:38] marry more than four wives it's Haram guess who goes against a show can he says yes you can he says where do you say you can't marry for more than four what says all those happy weak and nawab sadhika son han in his commentary on choke and he agrees with him and these other also controversial issues which i don't want to just people are gonna get all upset but i've been asked in the past about is their each man on i know people are gonna go what the hell but i'm just bringing it up when people said and i was criticized for this point that I just highlighted

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[1:55:56] is how you press a lot you do ruffle you think they reject it they say no that's it's okay it's okay it's okay you say yeah but look he's saying it's motor water yeah yeah but it's okay it's okay it's okay you think well that's a Jeep you know what what's going on here the parents of the Prophet being in the Hellfire this belief parents of the Prophet being in the Hellfire most of the early scholars not all but most of the early scholars accepted that far the ER imam Noah we go to all these great people accepted that they said yeah the hadith is very clear in Sahih Muslim Imam no we even makes the title of the

[1:56:36] chapter that those who say that why intercession will not help you if you die as a Kaffir and then he puts in in the hadith of the parents of the Prophet being in the Hellfire and Mullaly ilk re writes a whole book dedicated to it and in his other works he says there's each man on this that all the Ummah has agreed on he says Ibraheem share they brahim el halluf he claims the same thing but here the scholar say yeah but the later scholars disagreed with it C UT disagreed and what does UT do to disagree does exactly what I'm and what these scholars are saying here just problematizes the Hadean so why is it okay for you to pick

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment NHzYu3BKBWE/s/30. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/30/

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