# Rashid Rida at Deoband: how scholars disagree with adab

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/29/
- Date: 2018-03-13 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: PRELUDE: Why There Is NO 2nd Coming Of Jesus (as) In Islam- Mufti Abu Layth (1:50:28–1:53:04)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzYu3BKBWE&t=6628s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/

**Topics:** Modern reformers and movements; Sects, sectarianism and takfir; Character and virtue

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Rida and Kashmiri held opposite views on the return of Jesus yet honoured each other at Deoband; Mufti Abu Layth says this is how scholars should disagree.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth recounts that Rashid Rida, whom he also calls a father figure of Salafiyya, visited India with a low opinion of Hanafis, and that Deoband invited him with great hospitality to a gathering where Anwar Shah Kashmiri gave the keynote speech in his praise; the Deobandis wished to show they were as grounded in hadith as anyone, and Rida wrote afterwards that the visit to Deoband made his whole trip worthwhile. He says that Rida championed the view that Jesus is not returning while Kashmiri wrote the opposite, yet they honoured each other, and that this is how one disagrees in this religion, not by calling someone a kafir for going against the mutawatir. He then notes that people say al-Shawkani declared the return mutawatir and ijma, which he confirms Shawkani did say.

## Sources and names cited

- Rashid Rida
- Anwar Shah Kashmiri
- al-Shawkani
- Rashid Rida's visit to India and Deoband

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:50:28–1:53:04)

[1:50:06] about this you've got people like chef Abu Zahra the great Al Azhar any kind of Egyptian scholar wrote on this people after him hamid al-ghazali all these people wrote on this write saying exactly this but let's go to Rashid Rida when he was in his time the great share huh fellas huh this is going from the eighteen hundreds into the early ninth did you know people he visited India he's also known as by the way one of the father figures of salafiyyah right now did you know he visited India a lot of people don't I mean people may not know this but you can just google e and guess

[1:50:44] where he visited he first of all went to network and he says I had a low expectation of hanafis that he didn't think the Hanafi method was of any worth or any regard check this out do you know where he's invited to come where do Bund do Bund invite him with great hospitality they do this great do for Cheryl as Hiroshi's rhythm guess who is the keynote speaker the keynote speaker to address chef

[1:51:23] Rasheed realize who a lama and marshal Kashmiri gives a whole speech he praises Rasheed reduce so much and and he they respect him make they they do this incredible do for him and they tried to show him that we are like we hanafis are as grounded in hadith as well and then Rasheed River goes back and writes about how his visit to the Obon made his entire visit to India worthwhile this is available it's online Rashid Rida who championed this understanding as well

[1:52:03] one of the key figures that Jesus ain't coming back and undershot Kashmir he is saying all these praises about his pleasing is trying to please him he's giving a whole speech just to him so if you want to disagree disagree like that that is how you disagree that is other that is this Deen that you can disagree you know that look at the other is he cooling McAfee you've gone against the motor water you know I found the motor water you know you've gone against them what's all of this none of this very

[1:52:42] respectful that is how you disagree people that is how you discuss this thing and you know this show canny people say show can he said show people say show Connie said this is motivated this motivated as each month is each month is each man yes he did say that and look show Connie's also somebody I love I don't have an issue with the map show Connie but I disagree with him on this point you can disagree check this out check this out people people who said there is an aged man that music is Haram

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment NHzYu3BKBWE/s/29. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/29/

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