# Anwar Shah Kashmiri's claim of ijma, and the scholars who rejected the return

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/28/
- Date: 2018-03-13 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: PRELUDE: Why There Is NO 2nd Coming Of Jesus (as) In Islam- Mufti Abu Layth (1:47:50–1:50:28)
- Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held
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**Topics:** The second coming of Jesus; Modern reformers and movements; Mutawatir and certainty

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Kashmiri's compilation of over a hundred return hadith contains mostly weak reports by his own count, and a line of Azhar and other scholars from Abduh to Muhammad al-Ghazali rejected the second coming.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth says he is disappointed that scholars attacked him rather than asking where he is coming from, and insists there is nothing in the Quran about a return. He says he is not against ijma but notes that those quoting Anwar Shah Kashmiri's book, which claims the return is mutawatir and agreed upon, reject Kashmiri on other matters, such as his classing Ibn Taymiyya as a deviant. He reports that Kashmiri gathered over a hundred hadith on Jesus, himself noting that over sixty were weak and that only some thirty or forty merited review, and that al-Shawkani and others bring more or less the same material. He then lists scholars who criticised the second coming: Muhammad Abduh, Rashid Rida, whom he describes as a great shaykh of al-Azhar [?], in Tafsir al-Manar, Mustafa al-Maraghi and Mahmud Shaltut as Shaykhs of al-Azhar, Ibn Ashur on aspects of it, Abu Zahra and Muhammad al-Ghazali.

## Sources and names cited

- Anwar Shah Kashmiri
- al-Shawkani
- Ibn Taymiyya
- Muhammad Abduh
- Rashid Rida
- Tafsir al-Manar
- Mustafa al-Maraghi
- Mahmud Shaltut
- Ibn Ashur
- Muhammad Abu Zahra
- Muhammad al-Ghazali

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:47:50–1:50:28)

[1:47:30] has destroyed it and this is when a law said latter taki do you know do not take the Rathbun and the abbe are these priests and these people has God other than Allah so this is something I it's just that I saw so many people come out say so many things and I was kind of disappointed in the scholarship that we have that Wow why not just you know people reach out say look you know Mufti okay if they don't want to consider me a move till a you know what it is is that look you've got this discussion this issue why don't we talk about this why

[1:48:09] do you think this where are you coming from what's all this anybody who believes disbelieved in the clear and what Quran are you reading man there is nothing in the Quran that talks about this I you know if this was in the Quran so ki wouldn't have a problem with this the problem is you guys are forcing this into the Quran no I'm not against in each man you know this thing coming of each man people quote people like on your chakra Schmidty no you know this is important Lama I'm not sure Kashmiri yeah now he brought this hadith this book saying that this is motor water and there's

[1:48:49] each man doing all these things but yet not only do they reject him on other things so for example he in his teachings clearly describes people like hypnotized a deviant as a mood today and outside of a listener they reject him there the Salafis but okay let's let's unload shot Kashmiri let's just pause on him for a moment he writes a hadith he brings over a hundred hadith in there to do with Jesus he mentions over 60 of them are weak he himself mentions that he brings forty ADIZ out of which something like thirty are worth reviewing right there they kind of like what he really is trying to present this is the same thing that show

[1:49:27] can he brings more or less and Hammadi brings in these people but look let me answer something did you know one of the key proponents who criticized this whole understanding of the second coming of Jesus began with Mohammad Abdu obviously he could critique this thing and after him the shareholders heard the great shock of al-azhar the Sunni Institute of Islam Rashid Rida right was it have seen on the Quran the phenomena then the share of us heart Mustapha Marathi then the share of as as her chef Mahmoud shall truth all of them wrote about this extensively then you've got people are even an hour wrote on certain aspects

[1:50:06] about this you've got people like chef Abu Zahra the great Al Azhar any kind of Egyptian scholar wrote on this people after him hamid al-ghazali all these people wrote on this write saying exactly this but let's go to Rashid Rida when he was in his time the great share huh fellas huh this is going from the eighteen hundreds into the early ninth did you know people he visited India he's also known as by the way one of the father figures of salafiyyah right now did you know he visited India a lot of people don't I mean people may not know this but you can just google e and guess

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment NHzYu3BKBWE/s/28. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/28/

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