# If Jesus comes down from the sky, what is the point of faith after that?

*If Jesus descends from the sky, what is the purpose of faith? Siddina's answer*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/14/
- Date: 2018-03-13 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: PRELUDE: Why There Is NO 2nd Coming Of Jesus (as) In Islam- Mufti Abu Layth (47:33–50:12)
- Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzYu3BKBWE&t=2853s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/

**Topics:** The second coming of Jesus; Responses to critics

**Question as asked:** If Jesus was to come down from the sky, then what is the purpose of faith?

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Siddina's answer was that once Jesus descends, taklif ends and faith is no longer accepted; Mufti Abu Layth presents this answer for examination and finds it confused.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth recounts that at the end of Shaykh Salek bin Siddina's video someone asked him what the purpose of faith would be once Jesus visibly descends from the sky, an image Mufti notes comes from the Bible, where the Son of God comes down on the wings of angels. He adds that a descending Jesus could even be verified by DNA analysis showing he predates the admixture of the Middle East. He reports Siddina's answer: once Jesus comes down, taklif ends and no one's faith is accepted any more, so becoming Muslim makes no difference. He describes the translator's confusion over whether this happens before or after the Dajjal is killed and Siddina's stuttering reply that when the signs happen it is well known that no faith is accepted, which he said is known from the Quran.

## Sources and names cited

- Shaykh Salek bin Siddina
- taklif

## Transcript (machine tier, 47:33–50:12)

[47:08] I thought behaved you know behave like that kind of stuff is absurd to say right I'm actually saying that you guys are missing buting to our prophet statements right so and I'm going to highlight this okay like just actually which really if you had a critical mind you would understand that but okay what I wanted to come to was an interesting point when chef Seligman Cigna finishes his video it's not too long somebody asks him shake these people say like me and other people that if Jesus was to come down from the sky which by the way is a quote from the Bible and the Son of

[47:47] God will come down on the wings of angels holding on to these angels coming down which is exactly what the hadith says right now when Jesus descends upon the Muslims everybody is viewing this so they asked him that Chef these people say then what is the purpose of faith what is the purpose I'm coming I'm gonna come to the other points of toois tour right so I'm just highlighting this they asked him shake what is the purpose of faith because now we've seen somebody coming down from the sky so now we know you know at the end of the day if somebody's coming out of the cosmos they're coming down they're coming out of space outer space right obviously people will be like whoa

[48:25] what's going on you know we got Jesus Christ and for once he'll say yep you got that right but the point is that look so now Jesus is coming down and by the way we could do genetic DNA analysis you could check for example his DNA to see obviously Jesus was Jewish you could see that he predates all the admixture that took place in the Middle East with the Romans and the Arabs he predates all of that so his DNA would show that it predates these people so he either this is a man living in such isolation or

[49:03] this guy really is from like 2,000 years ago Wow so now everybody would believe so they ask Chad Seligman sadena that what is what about that so his response was really interesting he said oh when Jesus comes down nobody's faith will be accepted anymore after that like faith to cliff to cliff means your Islamic liability not the order words atif which means pain - cliff means your liability to God like having Islam not having Islam being responsible so there's no more Turkey he said that after that Iman is invalid

[49:41] become a Muslim don't become Muslim doesn't make a difference so then even the translator gets confused because the translator says right isn't that supposed to happen after doesn't he kill the gel first and then he says yeah yeah he kills the gel and so the translator asked him so what at what point does a man become no longer valid is it after he's killed the gel or just as he's coming down and and then he himself just kind of like stutters and just says look yeah look when the signs happen these are well known that nobody's Amman is accepted anymore and he says this is known in the Quran and

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment NHzYu3BKBWE/s/14. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/nhzyu3bkbwe/s/14/

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