# Why does Mufti Abu Layth say both the attackers and the admirers of Shaykh al-Yaqoubi need balance? *You cannot bully people into beliefs, and the opposite excess: exalting al-Yaqoubi with miracle stories* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/mlnpcjxypqm/s/4/ - Date: 2020-04-06 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: People Attacking Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi | Mufti Abu Layth (11:31–15:27) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNpcjXYpqM&t=691s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/mlnpcjxypqm/ **Topics:** Sects, sectarianism and takfir; Views on contemporary scholars; Prophethood and miracles **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** People cannot be bullied into beliefs, and al-Yaqoubi has rightly not responded to the letter. But his admirers also need balance: claims that he performs miracles or read the Shama'il in four hours go too far and provoke hatred of him. ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth says the speaker in the clip kept demanding that his opponents 'do one, two, three' before debating, and asks when people will learn that you cannot bully people, mocking the 'defenders of the faith' as if they were assembling superheroes. He notes that Shaykh al-Yaqoubi has not responded to them, which would be ridiculous, and that the counting refrain was the 'root' the letter-writers want to return to. On the same token, he says, people need to calm down on the other side: someone replying in al-Yaqoubi's defence wrote five pages exalting him, claiming to have witnessed his miracles and that he read the whole Shama'il [?] in four hours as a karama. Mufti, while accepting that al-Yaqoubi may well be a noble and respectable person, asks whether he is the only sober one, says such claims are not fair, and calls for balance, because overdoing praise provokes people to hate the person praised. He gives the example of someone telling him that al-Yaqoubi's Arabic is as magnificent as pre-Islamic Arabic, which he found far too much. He ends by picking up a comment about Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah, saying he would not call him the current don of Maliki knowledge but that he is certainly a Maliki scholar and a great scholar. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi - the Shama'il [?] - karama (saintly miracle) - Shaykh Abdullah bin Bayyah - Maliki school ## Transcript (machine tier, 11:31–15:27) [11:04] really it's just an issue of a the in Cervantes oh sorry do after you in English one two three one two three man that's hilarious man honestly I don't know what he's I think his actual point they was he wanted them to listen and things but he kept going on in the debate about saying I think initially said I want you to list certain three things but and then we'll debate but then he kept saying just do one two three do one two three but this coming [11:43] to this point people these when do we learn that you can't bully people I mean you know these defenders of the faith for God's sake defenders assemble one two three three pay on three okay one two three assemble so I came across that and I was like oh my god this is so ridiculous how you know it's like and obviously share here who be hasn't responded to them which Asian at all because I mean that would just be ridiculous [12:20] but seriously here that's the one that you know the the old madhuri dixit the thing this this is this this this was the root you know the root you have to return to the as'll to the root so people huh but you know on the same token i wanted to say that people need to calm down as well with some of these things I was reading I think somebody replying about chef yaku be saying that look oh my god surely I could be such a noble person which fair enough he may be a very noble person and I I do believe [13:00] he's you know a respectable person but then they wrote like five pages exalting and saying that you know I've witnessed his miracles and I've witnessed his you know he's like AI ants and they said oh my god he I saw him read the Shema ill I wish every page in four hours he read the Shema it in four hours it was from [13:36] his Kurama it was a miracle it was a miracle I thought four hours can somebody pass me whatever is there smoking am I the only one sober here it's like yeah these are not fair you know this one I say now one two three Goro would you be so okay so anyway man this so this was the thing that we need people need to be a bit balanced as well because you see sometimes when you overdo it what you do is you provoke people to kind of hate on those people [14:16] so if you start going on about this person is like oh he's up there like I had somebody say to me that you know sure he could be his Arabic is so magnificent it's so magnificent it's as magnificent as the pre-islamic Arabic [Laughter] the GUP is way too much that a cop courney take easy it could the other ping the air I was like next time you want to black that much just just tell me so I can prepare so I can kind of [14:54] like put on that oh really Wow like calm down for God's sake so people I think with that right so so what is going on what is going on is shaykh abdullah bin baya the current dawn of Maliki knowledge no I don't know I don't think so but shaykh abdullah bin BAE is definitely a Maliki scholar he's definitely a great scholar I don't I don't say he's the the dawn somebody asked how is that bullying you see asking for clarity because I'll tell you it's bullying because what you're doing ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment mLNpcjXYpqM/s/4. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/mlnpcjxypqm/s/4/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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