# An offer to discuss Sahih al-Bukhari live, and a demand for a moderated debate - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/37/ - Date: 2020-08-24 · Kind: other · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #179 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:39:40–2:47:19) - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWmtt2TQAO0&t=9580s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/ **Topics:** Debate challenges and reviews; Sahih al-Bukhari (BukhariGate) **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth recounts inviting the critic to a live discussion on Sahih al-Bukhari, which the critic declined in favour of a moderated debate. ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth says he offered his critic a discussion on Sahih al-Bukhari, and that the critic replied that he only debates people he does not respect, in order to humiliate them, and would fly to the UK only for a moderated debate. Mufti says he repeatedly invited him to come live within hours, since it should be easy to expose someone he considers ignorant, and that even the critic's own followers urged him to accept. He jokes about the proposed moderator, contrasts this with a challenger who came on his meetup to debate Jesus and lost, and says he told him to stop the drama and just come live. ## Sources and names cited - Farid [?] - Sahih al-Bukhari ## Transcript (machine tier, 2:39:40–2:47:19) [2:39:02] by all means if that you know if if becoming obsessed with me gives your life some some meaning some purpose go for it man go for it go for it so anyway what we had was we had this thing going on so he went and had this kind of meltdown on twitter this back forth back for he's doing all this he's mocking the scholars i'm mocking the scholars i'm doing this i'm doing that so i said to him look i tell you what he's saying i'm a jahil i'm a you know all kinds of thing [2:39:40] i'm a zindiq uh you know i'm a kafir zindik means a cafe a non-muslim uh so who's just he's just pretending he's deceiving muslims that he's a muslim so i said look i tell you what this whole thing you coming to defend hadith i will have a discussion with you on sahil bukhari i will have i said to him i will have a discussion with you what say you let's let's have this so he responded by this uh discussion discussion her rather rather he's like look [2:40:20] less than man discussion with him haha i have discussions with people who i respect that he will humiliate me he will come i'm just a child you know i'm just a heretic [Laughter] so this is what he's and there he is saying oy zindik [2:40:56] keeping in mind keeping in mind people that this apology yeah i said what about you know since you're so keen about apologies what about shaykh assad apology [Laughter] you know that uh when you forgot to wear the nappy and you leaked [Laughter] what about that isn't he waiting for four years he's about his apology was basically he'd been blocked by me now the point is i said to him so i offered our beloved gangutili i said to him look listen [2:41:35] let's have a let's have a discussion he's like discussion i don't have discussions with people i don't respect i have a debate child i will humiliate you so i said look i tell you what this is exactly my point since i'm just a child in front of farid and the zindiq why doesn't he just come live with me that day i offered him come live and just destroy me then this is you know you can obliterate you can decimate me in front of the world it should be easy [2:42:13] yeah because since i'm such a jahil like let's let's be real since i'm so ignorant of what i'm doing how difficult is it to come and just just completely humiliate me online just turn up i offered him so many times you know so many people said to him look even his own wobbler followers they were saying look come on you're on the huck he's unfalsehood you can destroy him please please he was like no i will only have a moderated uh [2:42:52] dialogue i will fly over to the uk i will fly over there i will only have a moderated dialogue i don't respect sorry sorry moderated debate oh and his point was oh in between at one point because the tweets were loads in between at one point i just said okay i should have said it because he was just looking for a little excuse so i just said all right yeah go on then since you're flying because he kept going on no i'm gonna go there i'm gonna fly there i'm i said all right birmingham this center gone turn up and this momo i said you know what momo can [2:43:32] just sit in as the moderator oh no uh i don't agree but now we've moderated we wanted this and now you can now i do i want this person i want dilly a cha-cha [Laughter] [Music] [2:44:01] [Laughter] it's interesting that you know people of that flock together of an ilk cancer i suppose just clings to cancer so i i was like look i said to him look listen cut the it's like oh listen you know stop these little these kind of little oh i said to him look cut the nonsense the drama just come live just come live now like in fact i said i never said now because that could be unfair to him i said look in a couple of hours let's go live [2:44:40] what are you let's do and i said look i give you my word that i you know you'll be civil since you have all the answers since i'm just a kid in front of you you're like he doesn't know anything if if i was obsessed with somebody that i stalked them i watched hundreds of hours of their videos i hated them i my mission in life became to prove them wrong and i felt they were so dumb if they invited me to alive i would snap that up instantaneously that would be a godsend because now i could go live and i could [2:45:18] just show them for the ignorant person they are it's like that guy who came on want to debate me on my mufti's meetup about jesus boy did he get schooled and this is it you see because they absolutely underestimate what they're coming up against and they think oh you know what what could he possibly know sits there with a necklace on and he's got a new ring and he's got a hahaha what could he know about islam i'll just go there and i'll so this was my point so i said to him on so many occasions look what say you then i was just fed up i said look i said look i'm saying this a [2:45:57] final time i don't need a babysitter to talk right let's talk let's not enough of your drama right oh i'm going to catch a flight catch a flight cup but [Laughter] gets booted out of ts the ts crew i'm going to catch flights to the uk to have a debate i was like look before you so proudly want to catch flight just come live just look come live with me let's have a [2:46:36] discussion or a debate or whatever [Music] boy and then even his own followers started saying it to him so he got so vexed because of my video you know this one he was so upset about this [Music] ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment KWmtt2TQAO0/s/37. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/37/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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