# If alcohol is haram, aren't drugs like DMT haram too?

*'You can't change what is haram': show me where DMT is forbidden*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/11/
- Date: 2020-08-24 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #179 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (39:51–41:40)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWmtt2TQAO0&t=2391s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/

**Topics:** Psychedelics; Legal theory and method

**Question as asked:** Alcohol is a drug; you can't change what is haram, period.

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth agrees that what is haram cannot be changed, but says neither the Quran nor the Sunnah forbids substances like mushrooms or DMT.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says the Quran and the Sunnah do not say that things like mushrooms or DMT are haram.

**Evidence, his words at 40:29:** “things like mushrooms or things like um dmt's haram you show me where it says that it doesn't say that in the quran doesn't say that in the sunnah” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWmtt2TQAO0&t=2429s)

## Longer summary

A chat user who often debates Mufti Abu Layth says alcohol is a drug and he cannot change what is haram. Mufti agrees that one cannot change what is haram, but asks to be shown where the Quran or the Sunnah says that mushrooms or DMT are haram. To the reply that this is by analogy, he asks why he should follow the other person's reasoning if the book of God is complete, citing the verse that it is a clarification of all things, and says he will be asked about his own understanding, not anyone else's. He then brushes off a question about the current position of Hasan Farhan al-Maliki, saying he does not know what it means.

## Sources and names cited

- Quran 16:89 (a clarification of all things): https://quran.com/16/89
- qiyas (analogy)
- DMT
- Hasan Farhan al-Maliki

## Transcript (machine tier, 39:51–41:40)

[39:12] it's not in toxic i disagree that i i mean people can disagree with me but i i won't see this as an intoxication alcohol is a depressant it is not psychedelic alcohol anybody who says that hasn't actually studied psychology they haven't studied the chemicals they've got no idea what they're talking about alcohol is a depressant it is not a stimulant and it is not a psychoactive element psychoactive elements are different they act differently on the brain okay so they are not depressants and they are not um but anyway this isn't a lesson

[39:50] on cello let's move on right so what is going on are you doing the debating are you doing the debating man we're doing the debating man is this the guy who says you saying you nothing not alcohol is a drug you can't change what's haram period i agree but you show me where it says uh that these things are haram where it says

[40:29] uh things like mushrooms or things like um dmt's haram you show me where it says that it doesn't say that in the quran doesn't say that in the sunnah now you're going to say oh but i want to use an analogy so you want us to go by your brain ah i thought you said the book of allah is complete it's complete but there's a few appendixes appendices that we have to kind of add

[41:01] ah so what happened to the verse tibiana li kulishi was allah kind of hinging that verse on your understanding and then in that case why should i go with your understanding why not my own after all i'm going to be asked about me i'm not going to be asked about you so in my understanding it's fine there you go what what more [Laughter] yeah so what do you think about chef hasan farhan al-maliki's current position or what right now

[41:39] okay google show us shaykh farhan's current position [Laughter] what's his current position i don't know what that means what what does that mean right so let's go to some there's some super chats uh lil saf has super chatted you doing it little stuff you doing why do mulvey say beating saves them from punishment of hell yeah that's a dumb

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment KWmtt2TQAO0/s/11. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/11/

Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.
