# Clip: Daniel Haqiqatjou's video on the libation ritual

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/jtyem-eee78/s/26/
- Date: 2020-09-22 · Kind: other · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #183 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:33:51–2:39:01)
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYEM-eEe78&t=9231s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/jtyem-eee78/

**Topics:** Views on contemporary scholars; Tawhid and shirk

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** A clip, played by Mufti Abu Layth, in which Daniel Haqiqatjou accuses Omar Suleiman of joining a pagan libation ritual and calls his denial deceptive.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth plays Daniel Haqiqatjou's video explaining his side of the dispute, calling it petty but worth seeing. In the clip, Haqiqatjou shows footage of the protest, says Omar Suleiman's place in it was coordinated in advance, and expresses anger and disgust that a prominent imam took part in what he calls a pagan ritual of blessing the migrants before hundreds of people. He quotes Omar Suleiman's reply that he did not take part in any anointing ritual and that it is not permissible to worship in the rituals of other religions, and argues that this is playing with words, since Omar Suleiman did take part in the water ritual. Haqiqatjou says intentions are irrelevant because pouring libations is itself a ritual of shirk and kufr.

## Sources and names cited

- Daniel Haqiqatjou
- Omar Suleiman
- 'Pagan-gate': the row over Omar Suleiman and a libation ritual at a border protest (2020)
- shirk
- kufr

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:33:51–2:39:01)

[2:33:23] sake of allah and all this kind of stuff then this one not nice because the problem you see when you do all of that right then you're going to give rise to these forms of opposition that okay i am and i want to say something i want to go to a clip of

[2:33:51] danny boy who has it gone um right so i'm going to bring up an entire clip here it is right this is danny boy explaining his beef his version so let's okay what he's got

[2:34:30] to say and i think this is petty as hell but still let's take a look at what he has to say thank you ma'am we come here as vessels of love so this is this clip is taken from danny across our borders that we are one people one humanity here you can see omar soyman into position and this means that this was all planned in advance it wasn't something spontaneous off the top of his head where he was put on the spot no this was

[2:35:09] coordinated in advance militarization of our borders is violence and in the cost of that violence is human lives we stand here in one of the most beautiful places on this earth to listen to the sound of god to listen to the sound of our creator singing in our hearts of the fullness of our humanity that tells us to greet one another with love and not with pilots with compassion [Music]

[2:35:49] so this is the libation the pouring of water [Laughter] that you have a right to seek peace you have a right to seek asylum yes you have a right to not be teargassed you have the right to be

[2:36:25] honored and dignified i'm having trouble expressing my anger and disgust at this i mean a prominent imam participating in a pagan ritual like it just boggles my mind that any muslim would take their deen from someone like this and let's not forget that this happened in front of

[2:37:04] hundreds of people and this was the main deal this was the main show to bless the migrants to bless the migrants this ritual was the whole purpose the culmination of this sunnah protest and there is an imam supposedly representing muslims who is there up front engaging in outright kuffer after i made my initial post with the pictures omar sullivan actually responded and he included a comment on his page where he says it's interesting i did not participate

[2:37:42] in any collecting ritual as muslims it's not permissible to worship in the rituals of other religions is this not deception is this not playing with words i didn't participate in any anointing ritual i did participate in a water ritual though and make sure you remember this comment just in case once this video comes out omar soleiman tries to justify his participation in the water ritual because if participating in the water ritual is okay why wouldn't it be okay to participate in the

[2:38:21] oil anointing ritual but he doesn't defend the oil ritual and he says participating in rituals like this is haram and he's also understating that it's not permissible to worship in the rituals of other religions not only is it impermissible it is actually kuffer now if a jai hill wants to come and argue that this is not kufar because we don't know the intentions of omar and what's in his heart i'll say this his intentions are irrelevant the action itself of pouring libations is a ritual of shirk it is a pagan

[2:39:00] koffer ritual right now so so this has been the event folks and what's happened is everybody has jumped out you know um on his side he's got all the the big boys amongst them you've got yes who's jumped out he said look anybody accusing him of this is just a jahil in islam he's just a jahil you've got in the uk abu

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment jTYEM-eEe78/s/26. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/jtyem-eee78/s/26/

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