# A Hanbali opinion on women's sexual desire, and Dawah Man quoting Ibn al-Qayyim

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/jtyem-eee78/s/19/
- Date: 2020-09-22 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #183 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (1:57:55–2:05:10)
- Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYEM-eEe78&t=7075s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/jtyem-eee78/

**Topics:** Sexual ethics; Schools of law and following them; Debate challenges and reviews

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth reads a Hanbali view that a woman may use a sexual aid when her desire is unmet, and mocks a claim quoted by Dawah Man from Ibn al-Qayyim.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth says that for those who ask why he discusses certain matters, the same Hanbali book [?] has a whole section on them, and reads the view of some Hanbalis that a woman with strong desire she cannot fulfil may use an apparatus made of leather, or something similar such as a cucumber. Mufti reports that the author says he does not like that opinion but treats it as a valid view of many Hanbalis, and he jokes about it at length. He says this is why critics talk about him but never with him, since he has read more than them combined, and that he is happy to discuss these rulings with anyone who challenges them. Mufti then mocks a claim he says Dawah Man quoted from Ibn al-Qayyim, that a particular sexual position in which the woman is on top eventually leads to homosexuality.

## Sources and names cited

- Hanbali
- Dawah Man
- Ibn al-Qayyim

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:57:55–2:05:10)

[1:57:54] [Laughter] he's saying that it is from the principles of the sharia to use lottery [Music] it's a very fascinating book by the way the same you know there's a since we're on this book i i don't like but since people say oh this mufti abu leith why does he discuss things huh why does he discuss certain matters

[1:58:34] he has a whole section dedicated to you can't see this reversed that is a whole section dedicated to it what's he saying what do some of the humbles is bringing their opinions saying

[1:59:12] some of our companions the humbles have said that a woman if she was had a lot of desire and she couldn't fulfill it sexually she can take this particular apparatus i've got this apparatus

[1:59:41] what next what next check what next he says so okay it's something you make out of leather um okay let's make it out of leather but what what shape should we give it or

[2:00:28] she could use something similar like a cucumber cucumbers himself says he doesn't like that opinion but he says this is a valid opinion of uh many of the hamballis and he is bringing it promotes

[2:00:58] [Laughter] [Laughter] [Laughter] it's as cool as a cucumber that book

[2:01:30] right so where does that leave the rest of us uh after people are just used to cucumbers [Laughter] where is it gonna go where are the men gonna go yeah so that's uh the jar with a small d all we can say we need the giants no problem but there is one dajjal with the big d okay [Music] so people let's take a few of your

[2:02:09] questions then we'll move on to the the discussion that is yet pending pagan gate somebody said she was what super chatting if i missed some super chats let me just take a look nope i can't see any super chats i've missed you're doing it people you're doing it uh so but that i reason i mentioned that is because that's to present to ourselves you see this is the reason they don't discuss with me you know a lot of these people will talk about me but they'll never talk with me

[2:02:48] because the problem is [Laughter] this book very dee you know i have access to the books and i've read more than them combined and i don't know why i end up finding these kind of rulings i don't know they just you know it's like i don't know it just gravitates towards me it's like the universe giving me these things i'm like yeah like

[2:03:21] still the universe just gives me it must be a sign [Laughter] so i'm always more than happy to discuss these things with any person who wants to challenge them who thinks they have a better understanding of the sharia labels so if any person wants to discuss them we can discuss them so let's take a few

[2:03:59] all right was using cucumbers but then dawa man quotes ibn kayem as saying see this one this one are nice him saying that according to him the a particular sexual position the um where the woman is on top eventually leads to homosexuality don't know how that logic works unless unless accidentally one day some you know somebody else is on top and you're like yeah where you come from you know this one

[2:04:37] i don't know how that accidentally that's like this like wait wait a minute did i just miss an entire season here like what how did that accidentally lead to that it's like one day she said oh he said let's let's do this um okay five minutes later it's like a gay orgy going on it's like

[2:05:09] if we film it is this the same [Laughter] anyway we'll speak about our mind in just a moment let's take some questions let's move on all right now just as a quick side note you know the whole thing on gambling i am i gambling is haram but i've mentioned that is gambling generally because gambling is highly addictive and it destroys lives and it destroys families it destroys homes and i do condem gambling and i advise people to kind of

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment jTYEM-eEe78/s/19. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/jtyem-eee78/s/19/

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