# Is pornography today like the concubines of the past?

*Pornography as the new concubines? Hidden books, a withdrawn book on oral sex, and real talk*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/s/23/
- Date: 2020-04-19 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Shaykh Kashif Khan | Policing thought, Pornography & Pandora's box | MindTrap with Mufti #15 (1:56:54–2:02:05)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOusirOkBVU&t=7014s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/

**Topics:** Sexual ethics; Salafism and Wahhabism; Guest conversations

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The guest rejects likening pornography to concubinage or mut'ah, calling it instant gratification, and describes Salafi efforts to suppress permissive classical texts; Mufti Abu Layth says these are real questions that need open discussion.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth mentions that Yuval Noah Harari, the author of Sapiens, said in an interview that pornography is today's equivalent of concubines, and asks the guest whether he sees it that way. The guest says mut'ah, even short-term, is a natural relationship, whereas pornography is instant gratification, and urges reading al-Shawkani's treatise thoroughly. He relates that some years ago a Salafi shaykh staying at his home for a conference in Karachi found that treatise and asked him not to make it public, and says Salafis in Pakistan and India publish long refutations of al-Albani's book on the face veil but never translate the book itself. He says a famous Pakistani Salafi scholar's book arguing that oral sex is halal was withdrawn from the market the next day by the publisher and an ulama committee, and that critics ignore the seventy to eighty percent of his posts on normal issues. Mufti says the topic came up organically, that people in the comments asked about it, and that because pornography is ubiquitous and everyone is exposed to it, these are real questions and it is important to hear the guest's response.

## Sources and names cited

- Shaykh Kashif Khan (guest)
- Yuval Noah Harari
- Sapiens
- al-Shawkani
- al-Albani
- mut'ah (temporary marriage)
- ma malakat aymanukum (concubines)
- Salafi
- niqab (face veil)

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:56:54–2:02:05)

[1:56:43] of saying well in this staining you know you well her re in the author of sapiens in an interview where he's speaking about he's asked about pornography and he says that it is when he's asked about people today in the detriments and so on he says that pornography today is the kind of the new concubines that people have okay that the way people had concubines in the past today it's pornography and I just found that a fascinating kind of analogy so I mean

[1:57:22] would you think that it is the the concubines of the H the the kind of Java milk will you mean well you hold the device in the right hand god damn it's milk ooh you mean I need to hold the difference of opinion on Mata I think if you can do math I won't be I mean for people who multi is obviously still even if it's a short term it's a it's a natural relationship but this is something like an immediate quick release isn't it for it's it's instant

[1:58:02] gratification yeah if you read the result of quasi Chicana you have to cut very you know thoroughly and in this area was I interrupted you when you were saying that and the salafiyyah and his result and how they love him and you about to make a point yeah so when I came to know like before some seven or eight years ago when I came to know about is the salon masturbation and we had a conference in Karachi and the Sheikh was staying at my home and he was reading the book suddenly he find it with Allah and at my

[1:58:40] house while staying at your house do not do not public it you know how public take it and things like that so I said okay but what like why don't they translate these things you know imagine the video city of Salafi in Pakistan and India they write long

[1:59:19] recitations of a llama llama bunny spoke on face wheel kneecap but never ever they translate his hook of his book if you want to dispute him first translate his book and then refute him the only published reputations of a llamas allamal bunnies books but they never ever publish his original book on face field why because they show the fit knowledge spread and this and that and one more thing a very good and famous selfie scholar in Pakistan he published a book on oral sex at oral sex is halal right selfie scholar you know what happened the next day all of his books

[1:59:55] were wiped out by the publisher and alma committee and they came into the middle and they intervened and they took out all of his books from the he's a very famous scholar and from the heart and his book was taken out of the markets and he hits a genial issue he's wrote on oral sex it's allowed right and he discussed from the classical ulama and things like that but all of his book so this is their mentality they don't even let you speak so that's why I like they come up with lame excuses or why you're discussing this why you're discussing that they see most of the time a 7080 percent

[2:00:35] of the time I discussed normal issues right but they never ever see that but the rest 10 20 % which you know shake their feet are thrown under their feet because they're because it challenges their insecurities because they have been telling people for long long oh this is haram Pierre cut her arm this is their this is that the babe they're never gone except in this is this not you know that some people had asked as well in the comments that look why this you know why these things is because is this not real talk is this not real like so many people ask this question isn't it and to be fair sure you are one of

[2:01:15] the few people the reason and this is why I when this topic came to be famous you know as it came up organically I didn't really plan this topic to come up but since it came up I feel that because you're one of the few shoe who's ever been vocal on it you've had the courage to be vocal that it's so important to hear this response because this is real this is like so many people you know because let's face it whether you know whether these things are have detrimental effects or not whether pornography is going to be detrimental

[2:01:53] in decades to come or not whether masturbation or whatever but it's it's ubiquitous everybody is going to be exposed to here so people are doing this it's like so relevant and so real you know on that note shares though people would say that look you you've highlighted that look there's no nothing in the Quran and Sunnah to declare these things to be a Haram specifically or let's say the virtual distinguishing the virtual from the real but then one could say look but is it not like we see in so

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment hOusirOkBVU/s/23. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/s/23/

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