# Does a triple talaq count as one divorce or three? *Triple talaq in India and Pakistan, and an Ahl al-Hadith scholar who would not publish his view* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/s/14/ - Date: 2020-04-19 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Shaykh Kashif Khan | Policing thought, Pornography & Pandora's box | MindTrap with Mufti #15 (1:13:31–1:19:17) - Status: a more recent answer exists: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/kwmtt2tqao0/s/6/; a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOusirOkBVU&t=4411s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/housirokbvu/ **Topics:** Divorce; India and Hindutva; Guest conversations **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The guest says triple talaq drives many to the Ahl al-Hadith view that it counts as one, while some Ahl al-Hadith scholars privately hold it counts as three but will not publish this for fear of controversy. ## Longer summary The guest says these rulings caused great controversy in India, where Hindus used them to attack Islam and the Indian media focused on them, though the Ahl al-Hadith opposed them, and that triple talaq is the main reason many people turn to the Ahl al-Hadith or seek a Salafi fatwa. He mentions Shaykh Zubair Ali Zai [?], a major Salafi hadith researcher whose research appears in Darussalam's English editions such as Abu Dawud, and a senior student of his whom he does not name, who teaches male and female students and holds that a triple talaq counts as three. When the guest asked him why he did not write an academic paper on it, the student said people would think they were acting like the Hanafis, and that ordinary people do not understand how fiqh works; the guest notes Zubair Ali Zai also challenged the Ahl al-Hadith on sacrifice on the fourth day. He says every group has fixed issues on which it never compromises, five or six for the Ahl al-Hadith and some thirty-four for the Hanafis. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Kashif Khan (guest) - Shaykh Zubair Ali Zai [?] - Darussalam (publisher) - Sunan Abi Dawud - triple talaq - Ahl al-Hadith - Hanafi school - qurbani (sacrifice) on the fourth day ## Transcript (machine tier, 1:13:31–1:19:17) [1:13:05] no sexual act that you know the Hanafy fatwa that the mother becomes Haram and who happens to be his wife and therefore then the car is broken and it's crazy man like I don't know if you've come across some crazy stuff like this always been a hot topic of discussion because especially in India Pakistan and they have been a lot of controversy and in India as well especially in India if you look up into the Google you will find a lot of news and this caused a lot of controversy and the Hindus were attacking Islam as well because of this [1:13:42] reason and then however they was opposed from el hadees as well in India but you know the media the Indian media they like to focus on something which is from which they can malign this laminate attack Islam so they this is the reason which have caused a lot of trouble this thing and the triple collapsing this is the main thing that a lot of countries they either become a lil Hadees and they either come and do rizzuto selfie for just for the for this fatwa and one more [1:14:17] thing it's interesting that my that shame to bear it is a and his dude and his student they're also senior students is huge especially from the Salafi kind of community backdrop and somebody who's done a lot of that eke on hadith bringing our editing hadith works and he's like seen as the way you know you hear names like Alberni and so on as an alternative and even in the dark sanam [1:14:55] you know the all the pseudonym of the daru-salam abu daoud they all have the research in trading for sheikh to be real easy in them on the english and he's actually been a teacher of use yeah so I was telling you think - 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