# If I commit a crime, was it my free will or my destiny? *Free will and destiny: the video game analogy, and civil disagreement* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/hiu1gjszg1e/s/14/ - Date: 2020-10-13 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Discussion on Miracles: A fallacy against God | Mufti Abu Layth (1:04:33–1:07:38) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIU1GJSzg1E&t=3873s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/hiu1gjszg1e/ **Topics:** Free will and destiny **Question as asked:** If I have a gun and I go and kill someone, was that my free will or was that qadar? **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Humans have real free will: as in a video game, every outcome was designed, but where you go and what you do is your own doing. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says human beings do have free will, likening it to a video game whose outcomes were all designed but whose course is up to the player. **Evidence, his words at 1:04:33:** “free will is human beings do have free will and i kind of in uh have given an analogy or made it analogous to somewhat of a computer game” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIU1GJSzg1E&t=3873s) ## Longer summary The caller's last question asks whether, if he takes a gun and kills someone, that is his free will or qadar. Mufti Abu Layth says human beings do have free will, likening it to a video game whose designer created every possible outcome while where the player gets and what he does along the way is up to him. He adds a professor of quantum physics' comparison with the Heisenberg principle, that one can speak of free will or of destiny but our thinking cannot hold both at once, and says he accepts that to a degree. He thanks the caller, saying the discussion shows people can disagree and still be civil. ## Sources and names cited - qadar (destiny) - the Heisenberg uncertainty principle ## Transcript (machine tier, 1:04:33–1:07:38) [1:03:53] if a god invited us to him based on reason the moment we accepted he told us oh you know that tool i told you to uh you know use to recognize me i want you to kind of like throw that away now and start believing weird stuff so this i think but this is not obviously we're not going to be able to get to the end of this here tonight yeah sure because we have gone on quite a bit but i think it's been very fruitful so i do really appreciate that you did come on and we discussed my last question uh i guess is the idea of color like if i have a gun and i go and i kill someone [1:04:33] yeah was that my free will or was that yes i i would i have said in my understanding of free will that free will is human beings do have free will and i kind of in uh have given an analogy or made it analogous to somewhat of a computer game so i've said if you have a video game then somebody has designed all possible outcomes now for you to be able to conduct any outcome it must have been designed however where you get in the game and what you do along the way [1:05:10] is entirely up to you as the player so but somebody must have designed it it is true so in somewhat of a poor approximation i give that example uh i do explain that look it is it is diff it's a very difficult in fact when discussing with the uh the uh professor of quantum physics uh doctor faisal mead uh we you he used the example i liked it very much giving the analogy of um what is the the heisenberg principle in quantum physics saying that look basically when we're speaking about human beings and speaking of free will it you cannot speak about destiny in that thing it's used up [1:05:50] the capacity like it can only like in a sentence you can either be talking about free will or you can be talking about destiny like predestination um when you use them both it it just doesn't our thinking just does not capacitate completely for that uh and in somewhat of a way i accept that so what what what does the law of nature say about that the law [1:06:21] according to you when it comes to free will how do you answer because you like to use reason and love so that is so based on reason i have given the example of the video game and that is a something based on reason i'm giving an example of how free will would work so you as the you would have agency but yes there has been design in where the character obviously wherever the character whether you got to stage four or level five or level 99 in the game is your doing but the game was designed all right yeah cool abdul malik i'll leave you with it it's been an absolute pleasure [1:07:00] take very good care of yourself no no not at all and i want to actually say before you go that this is actually a very i'm very glad that we had this discussion but it's also demonstrative of look people can disagree and we can still have a very civil conversation because sometimes people have said to me that oh you know that oh that they wouldn't you know i wouldn't engage people's discussions if they disagreed with me of course i would and and i'm really glad that you did ask that abdul malik so much love take very good care of yourself ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment HIU1GJSzg1E/s/14. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/hiu1gjszg1e/s/14/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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