# Do the signs of the Hour have to come before the Hour?

*Can the signs of the Hour occur with the Hour itself?*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/eoq_mxafx5o/s/4/
- Date: 2018-05-29 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: What is the Beast of the Earth? What did Ibn Aashour really say? -Mufti Abu Layth (9:41–10:59)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoQ_mXafx5o&t=581s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/eoq_mxafx5o/

**Topics:** Dajjal, Mahdi and the signs

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Not necessarily: Mufti Abu Layth accepts the view that the signs can occur with the Hour itself, as the world ends and a timeless realm begins.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth accepts as a valid difference of opinion the view that the signs of the Hour can occur together with the Hour itself.

**Evidence, his words at 10:19:** “so in that sense I accept this esta laughs in saying the signs of the hour they because they can happen with the hour” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoQ_mXafx5o&t=619s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth raises another confusion: whether something called a sign of the Hour must happen before the Hour or can happen with it. Mufti cites al-Tibi [?], quoted by Ibn Hajar [?], that the signs can occur before the Hour or together with it, as the world ends and a new realm is born. He says that since time ceases at that point, the end of time is also the birth of a timeless realm, and he accepts as a valid difference of opinion the view that the signs can happen with the Hour.

## Sources and names cited

- ashrat al-sa'ah (signs of the Hour)
- al-Tibi [?]
- Ibn Hajar [?]

## Transcript (machine tier, 9:41–10:59)

[9:02] well is the Sun rising from the West who is the Beast like what's going on so this is why everything to do with the end of times people is really something to be taken just as islamic information as Ignacio said in a stocky car to unlock this is just Islamic information is to be taken with a pinch of salt it's like stories they give you some understanding but they're not to be taken as like literal events like that like we're going to so now let's another confusion by the way is when we say something is from the sign of the hour

[9:40] does that mean it has to have happen before the hour or could it happen with the hour so a TB and even a Hodja quotes him as well and for adeana Rosina stuff she'd say that the Asha - sir I can occur before the sir or and aha Oh with the hour they can occur so as the world is Mb the world is ending so right now let's say the world is ending in the new world is being born this happening that's happening is that part of this world or the next world that I accept is a valid difference of opinion so you

[10:19] could say the actual sir and what's happening right now and the new world being made and people appearing is that still part of this world or the next world and will that because time will cease to exist so all of a sudden you can't say well time because time ceases in that sense so what are we talking is this all still the end of time because the end of time is at the same point the birth of a new realm which is timeless so in that sense I accept this esta laughs in saying the signs of the hour they because they can happen with

[10:58] the hour and is the our part of this world or the next world I would say it's part of the next world if people wanted to say that's part of this world it's not a big deal so now let's take a look at evening our shoes so if nourisher says in his verse right so after beginning this he says were harder into : elliptic irritability a moment dr. donahoo mine'll worried this is now going back to what was speaking about the AMA about death about reminding them and what has been stored for them for happy I'll miss out the grammar parts because that doesn't make [Music]

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment EoQ_mXafx5o/s/4. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/eoq_mxafx5o/s/4/

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