# An invitation to Sunni Defence, bad blood with Farid, and interrupting in debates - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/eokcnwggiba/s/21/ - Date: 2021-01-26 · Kind: other · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #199 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (1:37:45–1:44:17) - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoKcNwGGIBA&t=5865s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/eokcnwggiba/ **Topics:** Debate challenges and reviews; Responses to critics **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth invites a presenter of Sunni Defence to discuss BukhariGate on MindTrap, describes the bad blood with Farid, and defends occasional interruptions in debate. ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth extends what he calls a challenge, meaning simply an invitation, to Abdullah of Sunni Defence, who made a video refuting BukhariGate and is confident he answered every question, to a respectful discussion on MindTrap within fourteen days. He says he would be happy to host Farid [?], formerly of Sunni Defence, but does not expect him to come and admits there is bad blood: he says Farid made personal videos calling him a kafir and a zindiq, misrepresented him as laughing at the dead and linked him to a post about LGBTQ, and that he in turn has given Farid a mocking nickname and made comic videos about him. He says he will cut this part out as a separate clip to be sent to Abdullah. He then responds to viewers who said he interrupted the guest in the five-and-a-half-hour discussion, saying he did so less later on and that interjecting when someone misunderstands or answers a different question is natural in a healthy conversation between mature adults. ## Sources and names cited - Sunni Defence (YouTube channel) - Farid [?] - Dr Abdullah Abdul Majid [?] - zindiq ## Transcript (machine tier, 1:37:45–1:44:17) [1:37:43] this is a challenge i'd like to extend it to bra those of you that don't know um is part of the sunni defense the um which fareed used to be a part of but he isn't anymore now right so what's happened is um [1:38:21] right a little while back abdullah mata's made a video refuting boharigate okay and he says he's he he's very confident that he's answered all the questions so this is my challenge uh i i am challenging but what this means what the challenge means simply is i'm extending a an invite an invite to a discussion okay um i to come on to mindtrap let's have a discussion it will be [1:38:59] respectful there will be that kind of as much as i can i will try and make you comfortable i you know i won't be disrespectful in any way can be passionate but let's do it what say you abdullah because abdullah i i don't think he's right now is with farid but i think they've kind of had a split or maybe they still collaborate on stuff i don't know um i'm happy more than happy to have farid gangutilisab [1:39:34] on mindtrap but in all honesty i'm a realist and i know harid is never gonna come okay and i admit as well that with farid there is a certain amount of bad blood now i accept that because look you know farid went about made so many personal videos about me he called me a kafir call me zindik a hidden non-muslim who deceives people by being a muslim he made loads of mis uh attributions of me like look i'm mocking the dead he kind of took that clip where i'm [1:40:12] speaking and uh where i kind of smirk but he the photo he puts is of me laughing my head off like at the at the dead people and he says oh my god look he's laughing he made this other uh he made this post calling me um something nothing to even do with me about lgbtq but bringing me into it and saying so and obviously i have uh uh consequently given him the title gangutili and i've also kind of made some entertaining uh video displays for him so i think there's enough kind of um [1:40:52] uh i think there's enough bad blood uh between us but i'm still happy if gangutili wants to come i'm more than happy but i i can see that not happening one i know farid i suppose you know however he is he's obviously not stupid and he knows if he came on this one not nice you know it'd be too embarrassing for him however abdullah mata's look there's no bad blood between us i've you know there's nothing this is like a fresh kind of engagement so i extend this to you inshallah if you can within the next 14 days let's make this happen [1:41:32] okay so um you reach out to me i will accommodate accordingly it's very straightforward and you use all this streaming software so you're very familiar with it i'll bring you through on skype we're gonna have a discussion on bukhari gate you've already made a video about it i think it's about over a year old or something answering it so it should be straightforward and it'll be courteous but i hope that this challenge is taken up and i'm using the word challenge just because in your video it was kind of like a it was kind of termed it was like that that's what was being given off so yes i hope you [1:42:12] don't kind of uh shy away from me but let's make this happen yeah so abdullah and those of you that know him i will cut this out as a separate segment send this to him let's make this happen man mine trap bakari gate let's discuss it's good to talk so right okay now right yes so yeah that's that's what i'm saying it's a conversation we're gonna be having it's not something you know it's not a little conversation and look that that's proof we've had a five and a half hour conversation disagreed [1:42:50] okay now some people did say that oh musti you know you interrupted and they were in the beginning later on i i do less so in the beginning there were some interruptions but i think in you know you i suppose you live you learn um the the reason i think next time i would just make it clear that both sides they have the opportunity but just so it's fresh in everybody's mind that look if you feel that the other person is going entirely off or you feel that uh you know they're not answering the question you asked like maybe they've misunderstood [1:43:30] the question or they're answering a different question it's absolutely fine to interrupt and as it would in a natural conversation you see in a natural conversation some of it you do kind of interject and it does happen but for the most part it's you know there's a healthy conversation so cool people and and we don't and and i think this is a testimony we don't need to be told how to have a conversation you know we're mature adults we can do that so people are right all right all right all right mufti how tall are you [1:44:09] not that tall i'm just five nine that's standard i don't know if that's standard some of the countries that's gonna be short i suppose america everybody's like five six four but in certain parts that's just standard kind of height of the what is your diet yeah my diet is uh it could be a lot better i've been trying to uh sharpen up my diet since i had to go see a uh consultant for my throat so i've been trying to sharpen up ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment eoKcNwGGIBA/s/21. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/eokcnwggiba/s/21/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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