# Is it rape if a husband uses religion to pressure his wife into sex? *Reply to Sunni Defence: what the marital rape video said* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/cz26by1mmns/s/1/ - Date: 2018-07-08 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Reply to Sunni (Wahhabi) Defence Pt. III -Mufti Abu Layth (0:00–3:12) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz26by1mMns&t=0s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/cz26by1mmns/ **Topics:** Abuse in marriage; Responses to critics **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Yes: Mufti Abu Layth says using religious threats to pressure a wife into sex is still rape and categorically haram. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says that pressuring a wife into sex by threatening her with Allah's punishment is no less rape than threatening to beat her. **Evidence, his words at 2:33:** “that is no less rape that's just like saying in other words a deferred beating so that's just threatening her still because it's still a threat but it's a threat with a deferred punishment” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz26by1mMns&t=153s) ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth responds to another video by the Sunni Defence channel, which says that in his video declaring marital rape haram some of the quotes he used came from an online forum and were misrepresented. Mufti summarises his earlier video: rape is categorically haram, including when religion is used to justify it. He says that if a husband who beats his wife for refusing sex is committing rape, a husband who instead threatens her with Allah's punishment after death is no less committing rape, since that is a threat with a deferred punishment. He asks the critics to watch the full half-hour video, where he showed that this is coercion. ## Sources and names cited - Sunni Defence (YouTube channel) ## Transcript (machine tier, 0:00–3:12) [0:00] right so there's been another video as they were always off against me you know it's always funny games so the the video let me just deal with this for a moment and I'll come back to some of the questions video was by our lovely our lovely Muhammad events you know the lobby certainly defense they've done another video qui robbed on Hema stock robbed a year after yeah haha right this [0:34] so this being a video by Sony I say Sony loosely hobbies so me defense we're top he's saying that oh I haven't answered this question he's highlighted in this video saying look in my video about the video declaring marital rape Haram in that video he says I quoted something amongst the many quotes I'm going to come to this he says that these quotes were from some forum and they were misrepresented so they're not actually [1:14] accurate okay so right well my brother let's let's take a look at what is going on this way this sport karate karate so just to summarize there's a video you can check my video it's on YouTube it's it's to do it's called that rape marital rape is Haram in Islam overly I mean if you type that in marital rape Haram you should come up but under they I explained I mean in the video I explain [1:53] how rape is categorically Haram including using religion to justify the rape so if a person is emotionally blackmailing or religiously blackmailing a woman to rape her that is still rape so I've explained that that is categorically Haram her husband just as like let's say a husband is going to beat up his wife I'm like beat her up if she says no to sex that is clearly rape now if he is going to say oh I'm not gonna beat you up but allies gonna punish you after you die [2:33] you see that is no less rape that's just like saying in other words a deferred beating so that's just threatening her still because it's still a threat but it's a threat with a deferred punishment so it's still Haram categorically now right so first of all this there is a hadith and I've done a whole so what I would advise these people when they get a moment please go check out my video because it's over half an hour I do a complete breakdown of how that is [3:11] coercion and that is Haram and know that hadith is not true and to say that the Lord is angry because you and in getting sex is ridiculous you seriously overestimate talk about self aggrandizement like that you know I don't know is that a metaphor for like the Lord down there because is that what you you mean that the Lord is angry Lord is angry is this like some kind of like a a nickname that ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment Cz26by1mMns/s/1. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/cz26by1mmns/s/1/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.