# Is a DMT ego death the same as the Sufi idea of fana?

*5-MeO-DMT, ego death and fana fillah*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/cipm_chv0kw/s/1/
- Date: 2021-08-30 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: 5 MEO DMT "The God Molecule" #Shorts #MALM (0:00–1:00)
- Status: latest answer on its topic; general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIPm_CHV0Kw&t=0s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/cipm_chv0kw/

**Topics:** Spiritual experience and psychedelics; Psychedelics; Ibn Arabi

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth says the ego death reported with 5-MeO-DMT is, he believes, what Ibn Arabi meant by fana fillah.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says he believes the ego death reported with 5-MeO-DMT is what great scholars like Ibn Arabi meant by fana fillah.

**Evidence, his words at 0:00:** “i believe this is what the great scholars like ibn arabi meant when they said fanafilla the ego death” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIPm_CHV0Kw&t=0s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth offers quick thoughts on 5-MeO-DMT, the so-called God molecule discussed by Mike Tyson and Joe Rogan. Mufti describes reports of ego death, pure consciousness, transcendental bliss and oneness with God, noting that atheists who take it come to believe in God while some religious traditions find it disturbing that a molecule can do what was thought to take decades of meditation. Mufti says he believes this is what scholars such as Ibn Arabi meant by fana fillah, the ego death resulting in a unity of being in the presence of God. Mufti adds that clinical studies are limited but point to neurogenesis and to people overcoming addictions, anxiety and depression.

## Sources and names cited

- 5-MeO-DMT
- Mike Tyson
- Joe Rogan
- Ibn Arabi
- fana fillah (annihilation in God)

## Transcript (machine tier, 0:00–1:00)

[0:00] assalamu alaikum folks some quick thoughts on a topic much discussed by mike tyson and joe rogan 5meo dmt the god molecule people who take this experience and ego death resulting in pure consciousness a transcendental bliss and a oneness with god atheists who take it end up believing in god whereas some religious traditions find it disturbing a molecule can have such so much power ought to come from decades of meditation i believe this is what the great scholars like ibn arabi meant when they said fanafilla the ego death

[0:39] resulting in a unity of being in the presence of god clinical studies are limited on this but that which we do have show neurogenesis the birth of new neurons and overcoming addictions anxieties and depression but then again who wouldn't after they've met god

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment CIPm_CHV0Kw/s/1. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/cipm_chv0kw/s/1/

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