# Are the hadith about Aisha's young age authentic? *Challenge to bring sound chains for Aisha's young age* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/c9vke9rpq9o/s/3/ - Date: 2019-09-19 · Kind: discussion · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: A reply to Asadulah Al-Andalusi on the age of Aisha (r) | Mufti Abu Layth (6:57–13:07) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9vke9Rpq9o&t=417s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/c9vke9rpq9o/ **Topics:** The age of Aisha; Narrator criticism; Sahih al-Bukhari (BukhariGate) **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth says every chain for Aisha's young age is flawed, resting on narrators accused of tadlis and all going back to Urwa. Those who defend them put al-Bukhari's sanctity above the Prophet's honour. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says he can show that every chain brought to prove Aisha's young age is massively flawed. **Evidence, his words at 7:31:** “I will show you how each and every one of these chains that you bring is massively flawed” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9vke9Rpq9o&t=451s) ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth challenges the preacher, if he is not blind following, to bring undisputable chains proving Aisha's young age, saying he will show that each chain is massively flawed, and that a blind follower should not raise his voice. He says the claim is pushed mainly by Wahhabis, but also by some Deobandis, who would throw the honour of the Prophet under the bus to preserve the sanctity of al-Bukhari. In a garbled passage he says the chains rest on narrators such as Hisham ibn Urwa, whom Imam Malik would not accept from, al-A'mash, al-Zuhri and Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i, whom he calls mudallis narrators. He says all the narrations come from Urwa, Aisha's nephew, and raises the possibility that, since some in the first century fabricated stories of affairs against the Prophet's wives, Urwa may have pushed her age back to make such slanders implausible. He adds that those who use these hadith to justify marrying children have a conflict of interest. ## Sources and names cited - Aisha - Wahhabi - Deobandi - Sahih al-Bukhari - Hisham ibn Urwa [?] - Imam Malik - al-A'mash [?] - al-Zuhri [?] - Abu Ishaq al-Sabi'i [?] - tadlis (mudallis) - Urwa ibn al-Zubayr ## Transcript (machine tier, 6:57–13:07) [6:22] child age six and then get all worked up when people call that pedophilia because you are to blame first of all it's false but why are you promoting this nonsense so he then responded to me to the law by saying real scholarly research shows that you're wrong that I'm wrong and I Cheryl the Alanna was just a little girl was like six so I [6:57] said I said gee I said look escuchame hermano that if you when you're saying this are you simply blind following or is this your research as well because if this is your research and you're not blind following then bring me the solid undisputable chains of hadith that prove [7:31] this bring them to me I will show you how each and every one of these chains that you bring is massively flawed it is unacceptable they have criticism you base your trying to this you're stating this as a fact based on so many problematic narrations now you might say oh I blind fall such-and-such chef said the hadith is okay also you're blind following fine if you're blind following then don't raise your voice you just a [8:10] blind follower you know you can continue this kind of advocacy of this ridiculous propaganda by Wahabis it's not only pushed by Wahabis but mainly by them and it's pushed also unfortunately by some do Bundys and some other people as well who lost their mind right and they think they're doing some kind of service to Imam Bihari [8:43] you right I was just waiting for that to reconnect so these people feel that just so they can preserve the sanctity of body it's okay to throw the honor of the [9:21] Prophet under the bus and that is utterly unacceptable bring me these goddamn chains that prove the eyes showers and I want something that cannot be criticized we wick chains can you bring wheat chains can you bring based on his Shan who Imam Malik refused to accept from him based on at mush I'll tell you they don't even I'll tell you they rest on they rest on at mush Hisham they rest on Zuri mom were coming from maqam are they rest on a booze haka [10:00] severe eye all of these are floored major mood only seemed a boost after severe ie much major modernly scene they blacked so many everywhere they used to pretend they heard them ah pretend you heard them a cha-cha cha-cha let's pretend look they may have been good people they may have had some reasons for why they did things but let's just speak facts how much a moussaka sell bie right sorry [10:37] bring me your chains let's talk Heidi talk you want to talk a deal let's talk a deal the truth is these people haven't even studied at these they can't bring me any chains bring them jump Jaheim or Karbala joy whenever they want bring them let's talk I will rip these chains into pieces that they bring they come on lie become black these change just because I know why they're doing it because they their allegiance to their [11:15] sect they allegiance to they can't question the sanctity of a book called Sahil body right so they can question the integrity of the Prophet it's ridiculous and all of these narrations just come from you've got they just come from Ottawa that's it really then the nephew of I shall of the alone on her and they are either made up all these props somebody's misheard them all that this was a false narrative that was then spread and the reason being is because yes it is true that some people some [11:53] elements in early Islam in the early first century of Islam did have issues with the wives of the Prophet and some of them fabricated stories against the wives of the Prophet especially aisha and they said things like she had had affairs with men and things like this and you know well I gather beloved likes on rates in the Quran but still people had issues with Aisha and they made up these stories and so it's very likely if this if they can trace this back to Ottawa that Ottawa may have said something like this to push her age back [12:29] just so it comes across no no she obviously she was way too young to have been with other men and things like this that's a possibility but they cannot prove these chains to begin with okay and then the other thing is that these people have a conflict of interest if they use these hadith to justify their all marriages to little children because they say well I Shama was only nine and that's the truth that's the God's honest truth many of them have done that and ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment c9vke9Rpq9o/s/3. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/c9vke9rpq9o/s/3/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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