# What does the Ibn Mas'ud hadith about the end of time say, and is it reliable?

*The Ibn Mas'ud report: the Christians' claim, unknown narrators and the fluid beneath the Throne*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/b1ooltqtptw/s/40/
- Date: 2021-03-02 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #204 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (3:10:42–3:14:47)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1OOltqtPTw&t=11442s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/b1ooltqtptw/

**Topics:** Text criticism, reason and the Quran; Narrator criticism; The second coming of Jesus

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The Ibn Mas'ud report has unknown narrators, opens by citing the Christians' claim that Jesus will return, and ends with life regrowing from a fluid sent from beneath the Throne, which Mufti Abu Layth calls preposterous.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says one report begins with the statement that the Christians claim Jesus will come back, which shows the belief creeping in.

**Evidence, his words at 3:11:09:** “there is this hadith of namaste begins by saying that the christians claim jesus will come back you see this belief creeping in” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1OOltqtPTw&t=11469s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth turns to a report of Ibn Mas'ud, whose chain has a narrator nobody can identify, whose name is given variously [?], a problematised Hashim [?], a barely known narrator and a Hasan ibn Hafs [?] who is also criticised. He points out that the report begins with the statement that the Christians claim Jesus will come back, which he says shows the belief creeping in. It then gives elaborate detail of the end of time, a wind, Gog and Magog, people dying and utter destruction, after which, he says, bracing his audience, Allah sends down on the earth from beneath his Throne a fluid like the sperm of men, from which life grows again. He reads the passage twice amid laughter, jokes about a blizzard and a sperm bank beneath the Throne, and says this is the kind of hadith Qadhi says cannot be questioned with reason, calling it preposterous.

## Sources and names cited

- Yasir Qadhi
- Ibn Mas'ud
- report: ibn masud the christians claim jesus will return and after the destruction allah sends down a fluid from beneath the throne like the sperm of men from which the dead regrow
- Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog)

## Transcript (machine tier, 3:10:42–3:14:47)

[3:10:02] starts just transmitting 41 000 hadith yeah he transmits a hadith about the dajjal and jesus he says in his hadith check this out guess not only is that the jail coming guess where he's going to come from he says he's going to come from [Laughter] you jews here in osmahan [Laughter] so he's undervalued and all of a sudden in us behind in his narration the jal is going to come out from us behind amongst the jewish people

[3:10:41] there he's the only person to have ever said that and that's where he was massively undervalued now you tell me is that not suspicious right then i wanted to highlight and then wrap up as well all of this uh there's a hadith of ibn masarud he mentioned abnormal now this there's no idea who he is some people say his name is rafara afaza

[3:11:09] there's no idea hashem is problematized uh right but this is the hadith i wanted to focus on people there is this hadith of namaste begins by saying that the christians claim jesus will come back you see this belief creeping in then obviously this chain is problematic as well it's got this uh in it who's

[3:11:40] you know barely unknown and hasan ibn huffs who's problematized as well but anyway check this out more interesting people i want to bring your attention elaborate detail on the end of time what's going to then happen is look at all of this what will he go through in you know details this is going to happen that's going to happen a wind is going to come yet george mcjugger gonna come people are going to die all this stuff but then what's going to happen after this utter destruction now this is the hadith he was saying

[3:12:17] uh yasir khadi that we can't question with reason now check this out what does the hadith say at the end when there's utter destruction how will this be brought back to check this then allah will set now i have to translate this so brace yourselves people allah will send there's a fluid from beneath the arch

[3:12:55] which will ejaculate like the sperm of men [Laughter] i i'm oh people let me repeat look at it for yourselves send down on earth shower down on earth fluid from beneath his arch so beneath his throne this a collection of fluid which is kameni yer rijal which is like the sperm of men [Laughter] this is going to shower down on the

[3:13:34] globe and what's going to happen is this is going to then give birth to to once again life so sperm so for that people i had to had to yeah so what kind of games are so allah is going to send down a

[3:14:13] blizzard of sperm like sorry man sperm like fluid so this and for some reason this sperm bank is under the throne of god i mean that's that's what this actually is saying look and it mentions yumny that this it will come down as it will be ejaculated down onto [Laughter]

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment b1OOltqtPTw/s/40. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/b1ooltqtptw/s/40/

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