# Is separating hadith from the Sunnah a Hanafi and Maliki principle? *Hadith and Sunnah in Hanafi and Maliki usul; Salafi kalam on fabricated chains* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/b1ooltqtptw/s/31/ - Date: 2021-03-02 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #204 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:18:13–2:23:16) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1OOltqtPTw&t=8293s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/b1ooltqtptw/ **Topics:** Sunnah versus hadith; Creed and the schools of theology; Exchanges with Yasir Qadhi **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The hadith-Sunnah distinction is Hanafi and Maliki usul, not Abduh's invention; Mufti Abu Layth lists Qadhi's inconsistencies and says Salafi kalam rests on fabricated chains. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says that distinguishing hadith from the Sunnah is the usul of the Hanafi and Maliki madhhabs. **Evidence, his words at 2:18:13:** “this is the usual of the hanafi matab and the maliki method that we do tafriq hadith sunnah” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1OOltqtPTw&t=8293s) ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth says the distinction between hadith and Sunnah, which Qadhi traces to Muhammad Abduh, is the usul of the Hanafi and Maliki schools, which separate the two unlike the Shafi'is and the Hanbalis. He lists further inconsistencies: Qadhi calls challenging Islamic theology incredibly dangerous, yet on Gog and Magog said that what people have said does not matter; says one early authority held that Jesus died a natural death, when many did; says hadith cannot be questioned because they are Allah's decision, yet rejects the Gog and Magog report as illogical; and calls the claim of Judeo-Christian origins outrageous while himself saying the Gog and Magog belief came in that way and that the parallel with the Jewish forerunner messiah is a coincidence. He then says that in coming sessions he will show that Salafi kalam is built on fabrications: works arguing that the Quran is not created bring chains to companions such as Ibn Umar discussing the question, although the debate did not emerge until some 190 to 210 years after the Prophet, as even their Salafi editors admit; he likens it to saying Queen Victoria or Newton debated bitcoin. ## Sources and names cited - Yasir Qadhi - Muhammad Abduh - Hanafi school - Maliki school - Shafi'i school - Hanbali school - distinction between sunnah and hadith - Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) - Salafi - kalam - Ibn Umar ## Transcript (machine tier, 2:18:13–2:23:16) [2:18:13] so these were his claims even though i've highlighted that this ibn has a mentions this almost 900 years ago that muslims have disagreed on this point he says that muhammad abdul was the first to come up with this his thing on the main point of difference is to differentiate between hadith and sunnah comes from muhammad abdul this is the usual of the hanafi matab and the maliki method that we do tafriq hadith sunnah unlike the shaifa and the nebula but you [2:18:50] know there you go that just if only he'd done two and a half days research this is incredibly dangerous to challenge islamic theology yet himself on gaga magog he said it doesn't matter you know if people have said this doesn't matter he says one table he claimed that jesus died a natural death not [2:19:22] many people claim this acha hadith can't be questioned since it's allah's decision to the hadith is fabricated see so he says hadith because you can't question hadith as illogical because it's from allah himself he says about gaga magog it's illogical to believe this that it's under the earth therefore [2:19:54] it has to be false he claims that look oh this is uh to threaten all of islamic yet himself he on gog and magog he says no i clearly believe that this came in through judeo-christian sources he goes on to show how it's their belief to believe in a proto messiah precursor and the actual messiah and it's a coincidence that we have this [2:20:40] sunni islam could have been built on an entire belief structure is outrageous do you know the salafi and in the coming sessions i will show this their entire kalam is built on fabrications you know they believe that allah they will say all these things like like even if you take this topic of uh is the quran created famous scholars and these other people they've written voluminous works showing that this is that this is their position the quran is not created they bring chains going back to the companions [2:21:18] to the companions discussing the topic saying uh ibn umar or these these companions saying [Laughter] if the companion spoke about this issue it wouldn't have been an issue even the editors of those volumes who are salafi say obayah they say this is this is like this is the limits you you that there's no way these hadith because [2:21:57] the sahaba did not even have such a discussion so it's like saying basically it's the equivalent of saying well queen victoria was debating because for to say that queen victoria or newton were debating bitcoin is preposterous because this discussion hasn't emerged then it's the same this discussion of is the quran created was [2:22:35] did not emerge till at least maybe something like 190 to 210 years after the prophet after the prophet yet they bring with chains they fill their books up that the companions brings nine companions saying that all the having a discussion on this which even the editor says look come on he says he says that this is editor salafi he says look at come on man this is made up obviously the companions weren't discussing this but here how can it be as our beloved saying [2:23:15] these are biddah now here he brings the first verse of the quran which is in two places ali imran in 46 and surah maeda 110 that uh about jesus now note um he says this is clear indication that jesus is coming back yeah because how else is he going to speak to people ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment b1OOltqtPTw/s/31. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/b1ooltqtptw/s/31/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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