# What do Illiyyin and Sijjin mean in the Quran? *Illiyyin and Sijjin, and why afterlife imagery is symbolic* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/a6h5lye4mn8/s/7/ - Date: 2020-07-14 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti Abu Layth 173 (38:24–40:56) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6H5lYE4MN8&t=2304s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/a6h5lye4mn8/ **Topics:** Paradise and hell; Tafsir and verse study **Question as asked:** What are Illiyyin and Sijjin? **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** They refer to a record or place of the righteous and the wicked; he takes afterlife imagery as symbolic and promises more next week. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says that, to him, the descriptions of the afterlife are more symbolic, an approximation of something we can never conceptualise. **Evidence, his words at 39:42:** “to me these things all about the afterlife are more so kind of symbolic so they're not like I don't take these things as I think that we can never conceptualize the afterlife” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6H5lYE4MN8&t=2382s) ## Longer summary Closing the 'awrah answer, Mufti Abu Layth takes a question on Illiyyin and Sijjin. He says they generally refer to a record or a place, in paradise and in hell, where people are said to be written. He says that, to him, everything about the afterlife is more symbolic, since we can never conceptualise it and the imagery Allah gives is an approximation, and promises to gather what the mufassirun have said and return to it next week. He then tells chat that the shaykh asked about earlier is from Bradford and that he will message him about coming on. ## Sources and names cited - Illiyyin - Sijjin - mufassirun ## Transcript (machine tier, 38:24–40:56) [37:45] so it's just his his kind of genitals and and behind as well so they say the actual so the actual what they write in the books is the the kind of Maha Jane in the soul attack is tain they will say which is the rectum and the scrotum area and the genitals that see that's what men the cool aura that must be covered and everything and the other things but by extension like so young around that area to some extent because then they disagree some say the thighs some say [38:24] what's the point of thighs for men so it yeah I mean that's what I would go with so the outer has two layers to it there's a cool aura and there's an extended outer yep okay I hope that makes sense alien and Sid gene yeah couple that's a very interesting question I mean generally this is referring to an expression to do with a kind of either a [39:03] record or a kind of maybe a place in either paradise and you know when you're about to sneeze but you don't in paradise and in hell so what exactly is this when it says feel you know those people in alien there are written amongst the alien and amongst their or in the you see these hmm I tell you what let me gather more morphus it in what [39:42] they have said because I read that ages ago years and years ago and I wasn't I mean to me these things all about the afterlife are more so kind of symbolic so they're not like I don't take these things as I think that we can never conceptualize the afterlife so this when Allah describes it the imagery is just a kind of approximation for some people they but I mean let me get for you I'll come back in sha la with what more more for Celine have said next week and show [40:22] right so could you discuss that one chef RR is from Bradford okay so I think that's the same one I will message him sure I don't know if he wants to come on but if he does absolutely why not why not do rocky on the ghost all right people what is going on ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment a6H5lYE4MN8/s/7. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/a6h5lye4mn8/s/7/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.