# If a reliable narrator reports from someone, does that make the source reliable?

*Narrating from someone does not vouch for him*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/9cydtoroy7q/s/2/
- Date: 2020-10-09 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Sahih hadith criteria: Cannot go against reason | Mufti Abu Layth (4:13–5:58)
- Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cYDToRoy7Q&t=253s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/9cydtoroy7q/

**Topics:** Narrator criticism

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth reports from a classical text that a narrator transmitting from someone does not make that person reliable.

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth adds a follow-up point from the same book: a narrator transmitting from someone does not mean that person is vouched for. Mufti reports that the author rejects the claim that a reliable transmitter's narrating from a person automatically vouches for that person, and gives examples of why that need not be the case. Mufti says he has mentioned this before, and observes that otherwise everyone Imam Ahmad transmits from, teachers and others, would automatically become reliable, and so would every hadith in the Musnad of Ahmad.

## Sources and names cited

- Ahmad ibn Hanbal
- Musnad Ahmad
- jarh wa ta'dil (narrator criticism)

## Transcript (machine tier, 4:13–5:58)

[3:37] clashes with the Quran but about the bodies uh he actually cites that example so this is clearly highlighting as an example just just so you are aware that reason is what immediately tells you whether the Hadith is sah or not so when people ask that is is this something Muti is coming up with of course it isn't this is not just mu Abu this is the tradition of Hadith this is one of the earliest

[4:12] authoritative texts Within by known as right this by the way is just as a follow-up question follow-up point is something uh since I opened the book it's about he says if a does a rewire from somebody else it does not mean that person is vouched for and he says um he

[4:54] says he says that and the person who claims that if somebody transmits from someone like they claim about F who transmits bukari that oh because Sak transmitted from him and he's a therefore this is it vouches automatically otherwise he wouldn't transmit he says okay and he says that that and then he goes on to give examples why that doesn't have to be the case and I've mentioned that before anyway uh because otherwise every single person imami transmits from automatically becomes uh everybody ma transmits from

[5:33] automatically becomes everybody um anybody transmits from Imam Ahmed every single Hadith in the mus of Ahmed would be automatically from his all his teachers would be automatically just because he transmit and not just teachers people he's transmitting from so yeah I thought speaking

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 9cYDToRoy7Q/s/2. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/9cydtoroy7q/s/2/

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