# Why does he reject the hadith of the tree crying for the Prophet? *The two points of the original video: one set of standards for every religion* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/8u9-aslyrze/s/2/ - Date: 2018-02-21 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Reply to Sunni (Wahhabi) Defence Pt.I -Mufti Abu Layth (3:54–7:50) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9-ASlyrzE&t=234s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/8u9-aslyrze/ **Topics:** Reason and revelation; Text criticism, reason and the Quran; Responses to critics **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** The religion is built on reason, so one standard must apply to all religions: a tree that reasons and cries cannot be accepted while other faiths' claims are called absurd. He also urged his critics to reject the demeaning reports about the Prophet, which they instead affirmed. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth holds that the religion is built on reason, so a Muslim must apply one set of standards: a report that a tree reasoned and cried cannot be accepted while the claims of other religions are rejected as absurd. **Evidence, his words at 6:24:** “you must have one set of standards and you must put Islam to that test as well then you are true in your faith” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9-ASlyrzE&t=384s) ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth recalls the two key points of the video under attack. The first was why the crying-tree narration is problematic. The second was a challenge to those who called him disrespectful: since they claim to love the Prophet, he urged them to reject the teachings circulated by Muslims that the Prophet became clumsy under a magic spell, that he was sexually impotent, that he married and had relations with a child, that he ordered the execution of people he disliked, and that Moses ran around naked. He says the critics attacked his first point and affirmed all of these teachings, which he will come to. He then explains why he calls the teaching problematic even before the chains: the religion is built on reason, and one cannot call a god with an elephant's head or the Trinity absurd while accepting that a tree reasoned, understood and cried. He says one must apply a single set of standards and put Islam to the same test, otherwise one is creating a fairy-tale religion, and that only after this did he problematise the chains. ## Sources and names cited - Sunni Defence (YouTube channel) - report: the tree crying for the prophet - one set of standards: judge Islam's claims by the same test applied to other religions - the religion is built on reason; reports contrary to reason are problematic ## Transcript (machine tier, 3:54–7:50) [3:48] this out there people right so this why have I in that video I made two key points okay the first one was to do with why this hadith is problematic this inside this narration this narrative is problematic and I go into some details and I mentioned why this is problematic and then I mentioned that people who are saying to me that I'm being disrespectful right are they I challenge and urge and beg these people since they claim to love the profit to [4:28] decry debunk and reject these teachings that are being pushed by Muslims about the Prophet saying things that the Prophet became clumsy because he had a magic spell done on him the Prophet became sexually impotent the Prophet married a child and had sexual relationship with a child that the Prophet a commanded the execution of people he didn't like and that the prophet Moses run around naked so people could see his testicles I said I beg you to reject and refute these teachings and [5:06] what do they do these idiots right all they do is they come on criticize my first point and affirm all of these teachings right so I'm gonna come to this now gradually so let's get into their criticism what they've raised about me so why did I just to make you understand why did I say this teaching is problematic okay before we even look at the asan eat which I demonstrated that as I need on this or problematic [5:45] about the tree crying and stuff like this but why is this an issue because this deem is built on reason when you start accepting unreasonable things then you have to be consistent you have to be consistent when I ask you why is Hinduism inaccurate why is it wrong why is a God with an elephant's head absurd why is it absurd you can't say because [6:24] that's dumb and doesn't make any sense and this this this but then it's okay for trees to talk and laugh and cry because both of these things make no sense in the real world you see you can't have one and you can't be very critical when it comes to other religions but have double standards when it comes to your own you must have one set of standards and you must put Islam to that test as well then you are true in your faith right so because otherwise you just when you're [7:03] speaking to Christians why are you saying oh these three gods and one makes no sense why does it make no sense because oh but it doesn't add up oh but what a tree crying adds up so why is it you can accept things but you can't accept things there so my point is that look have one set of standards I'm sorry but this you know that the fact that the tree had it could reason it could understand what was going on it could cry it could do these things it doesn't add this is a fairy tale kind of [7:40] religion that you're creating and then I said okay put that aside now let's look at the chains and I problematize the chains and shown that they have problems to them so so anyway the this channel called the Sunni defense right the Sunni defense channel who are a channel dedicating to dedicated to refuting the Shia they decided to suspend their day job of refuting the Shia and focus on me ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 8U9-ASlyrzE/s/2. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/8u9-aslyrze/s/2/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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