# Is there any sound hadith that a jinn possessed someone? *Jinn according to hadith: no sound report of possession, the night with the jinn, and the tricks the guest has seen* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/s/3/ - Date: 2017-09-20 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Jinn Possessions: Myth and Reality in Islam by Sh. Akram Nadwi & Mufti Abu Layth (13:06–19:40) - Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z8yu8Kr83Y&t=786s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/ **Topics:** Jinn possession; Jinn, angels and the devil; Guest conversations **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** There is no sound hadith of Shaytan possessing anyone; the Ibn Mas'ud report shows the jinn as a lowly creation fed on bones, not masters over humans. The guest's own investigations of 'haunted' houses and 'possessed' women found tricks and nothing else, and exorcism has become a big business. ## Longer summary The guest says there is no sound hadith anywhere that Shaytan possessed or forced anybody. He relates the report in Sahih Muslim from Ibn Mas'ud: the companions missed the Prophet one night and feared he had been killed; in the morning he came from the direction of Hira and said a caller of the jinn had taken him to recite the Quran to them, showed the companions their traces and fires, and said bones over which Allah's name was mentioned are the jinn's food, which is why bones and dung are not to be used for cleaning. From this he draws that the jinn are a lowly creation living in dirty places, while human beings are honoured as masters of land and sea, so attributing whatever befalls us to them is a big mistake that has become a big business all over the world. He gives his own experiences: asking why possession stories cluster in East London; a couple in Oxford who fled their house for a hostel because of jinn, which he walked through room by room finding nothing; a woman in his village whose 'jinn' answered the questions she could answer and fell silent at those only a jinn would know, after which it never returned while he was there; and stories from Lucknow and the villages that proved tricks. He adds that the hadith allow only that Shaytan can misguide and whisper, which may lead to harm, but not possession, and mocks the idea that a jinn would bring a possessed man to the mosque. He tells of a man from India charging a thousand pounds a session to cure women of jinn, who claimed thirty thousand jinn under his command and could therefore conquer the world rather than beg in England. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Akram Nadwi (guest) - jinn - Shaytan - report: ibn masud said we missed the prophet one night and he said the caller of the jinn came to me and i read the quran to them and bones are the food of your brothers - Abdullah ibn Mas'ud - Sahih Muslim - raqi (one who performs ruqya; exorcist) ## Transcript (machine tier, 13:06–19:40) [12:52] you that you go for the prayer a shuttle stops you it ever happens really that you know there's a Haram on halal and we want to get halal and shuttle stops you force you to God for Hara never happen he only teaches you only T can do it teaches you he whispers to you that what everybody Shaytan never never never never pushes anybody never horse anybody this never happened to fasting it we had learned what exactly truth is about Shaitaan and and gin in the Quran this circles these two verses they are very clear you know in in the Quran and the Sunnah the parcel Allah said oh we don't have any sound Hadees anywhere where it [13:31] has come that Shaitaan has possessed anybody Shelton has force anybody to do something this is never never has come so human being on the one hand that was so respected they walk on the ground you know under learned the Masters of the learned you know they're masters of the ocean after the sea and gin they're not masters they are in the case they are in the dirty places in these are the places where they arrive and the hadith are the personal I seldom in many books of the Haditha you know especially a Muslim for an updo like Massoud a lot no no he said that we were with the prophets and our thumb one night and then we missed him [14:08] and we looked over the parcel al-salam in the valleys and everywhere and we said you know could it be that you know some some something happened to the parcel Aston maybe had been killed it was very bad night for us it is forbidden I sure wish are related in part we have all been very very bad night when it came the morning came so we saw the professor coming from Hara and we asked well as mass and SL dolly Salaam we missed you and we looked for you and we didn't find you and that why we spent a night in very bad condition so the professor class and said you know one of the collar of gin he came to me [14:46] and I went with him and I read to them the Quran it was all said and then the professor dolly said them to cast there and he showed us the tray said of jinn and their fires and all those things and they asked him what you can eat that the person have said you can eat any bone on which under the name has been mentioned if we open your hand you can eat that bone and your animals they can eat you know the tongue of the people the professionalism Marino a very clear far cooler part in artfully the Barbican and that then the person said to people last as latticed Anju bahama [15:26] for in the home Aparna come merging because they are food of did so this virgin are now you know this this creation with lower than human being this creation which is so humiliated you know no respect in compared to human being and Allah saw that first day no she ate our so so clearly now the human being our skeleton now anything happened to us we just associated to this really you know know big mistake and it has become big big business for the people all over the world and that what we need to understand anywhere you go it is basically you know I have been teaching [16:05] this course in London I said to the people why it's the origin there in East London nowhere else why is it like that ignorin there did they believe in these things you know people who believe nothing happened to them I you know I was in Oxford in Oxford one of my friend you know his son-in-law and his daughter they left the house they live in the hostel so I asked them what happened why we left by the left house said because there's so many gene in the House today scared and they left the house I said no no don't believe in these things they said no you come I said okay I'll come and when I went to the house and then they're so scared they said to me you go [16:43] first I will follow I went everywhere in a very single room nothing I said nothing is there nothing it is just even made up a story nothing I have seen this is truly minimal time in my village the woman I Jean used to come to her and I was truly another trauma I got nothing my teacher but I do not believe in winning the oldest thing any time anyway so there's people said to me I said okay when the gene comes to call me and they called me I went there to here I think I'm young boy you know I will be scared so she's in a frightening me I did not believe in that anyway - I asked a certain question which I know that she knows - Jean is answering all this question then I asked those questions [17:23] which Jean can know but she cannot know then she became normal she said Oh Jean had now run away you know no he'll come later on so I said to the people whenever next time comes calling me I asked Lang like what in the village Jean never came never happy never cut in all this basically people make a trip trick this thing I've seen so many times so many stories in lucknow in the villages everywhere it never happened all the text by the people sometimes people bleed blurt on some time people are lifted in Austin so many texts from this matter they have nothing dude in this matter that no single hadith which can tell the [18:02] people can be possessed by jinn this noting that one Litton that we can see in the hadith is birthday you know can misguide they can mislead and you know that also can you know it can happen sometime to the prophets they can actually affect in their senses but that what means meaning they are misguided in the whispery and sometimes that can can lead to certain harm but take hold someone impossible somebody who was sitting in the mosque in Oxford so I ask you know what the person is he say he's got a jinn don't you understand really if there's a jinn possessing Wai ghin [18:41] will bring him to the mosque you know is it the Plus version brings the people Jade will take him away from the most not to bring to the mosque just if he's in the mosque it you simply miss it there's no gene didn't order why didn't we bring it to the mosque somebody phoned me one of the Ramadan there somebody has come from India and they you know he cures women from the jinn so he takes for every session 1,000 powers not too far session to cut people from the jinn and he has got to her teeth how then gin with him forty thousand in big army I said with her 2000 G he can can cut the whole world he does not need to come at either beggar forum India to this country to pick the women you know [19:20] get the money and then he got all this money I'm going to buy thirty thousand in debt think really if you have got 30,000 our mutagen and nobody can see them easily can can cut the whole world and people believe in these stories and then he got so much money so you know this thing all the time you can you know these stories going on really and people people the simple matter is there's something in Lissa's sometimes you know people have got such entries that were happening we do not have any single proof in the Quran the soon something I could no proof in the real life it never happened so it could be fast will no doubt real sometime could be people's condition is so bad doctors cannot spend ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 7z8yu8Kr83Y/s/3. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/s/3/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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