# What harm does belief in jinn possession do? *The tyranny of abuse in the name of possession, and Islam left to carry the blame* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/s/17/ - Date: 2017-09-20 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Jinn Possessions: Myth and Reality in Islam by Sh. Akram Nadwi & Mufti Abu Layth (1:24:46–1:27:25) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z8yu8Kr83Y&t=5086s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/ **Topics:** Jinn possession; Cults, clergy and religious abuse **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Belief in possession sustains beatings, sexual violence, exploitation and the extraction of money and even houses, and because it is dressed as Islam, Islam will be dismissed as mythology by the coming generation. Neurosis and psychosis are introduced as the frame for the psychological cases. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says the belief in possession must be tackled because it mocks Islam and its Prophet and sustains a tyranny of abuse, from beatings and sexual violence to the extraction of money and property, and that Islam will be left to carry the blame as mythology. **Evidence, his words at 1:25:44:** “what's going to take the brunt of in the end is Islam so people will just say you know what Islam is just a load of nonsense” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z8yu8Kr83Y&t=5144s) ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth says the second reason the topic must be tackled is the tyranny of abuse conducted under this belief: beyond the stories the guest told, countless cases of beatings, violence, sexual violence, power structures destroying lives and families, exploitation and embezzlement, people charged a thousand pounds a session, and a case he was told of in which a person was advised to cure the 'evil' on their house by giving the house away in the name of Allah, preferably to the shaykh, and did so. Because the abuse has been Islamicised, he says, Islam will take the brunt: if not this generation then our children will dismiss Islam as mythology like the Greek or Hindu gods, since it defies reason. Turning to what we cannot explain, he introduces the psychiatric distinction between neurosis, the odd beliefs and behaviours everyone has to some degree while still behaving normally in public, and psychosis, where a person cannot snap out of it, as the frame for the case studies that follow. ## Sources and names cited - raqi (one who performs ruqya; exorcist) - ruqya (reading Quran over the afflicted) - jinn ## Transcript (machine tier, 1:24:46–1:27:25) [1:24:28] important to keep these things in mind why is this so important to tackle this topic it's important because one the mockery that is being made out of Islam alone is messenger in the name of these myths and to the tyranny of abuse that is being conducted with this belief it is indiscreet is it is unbelievable I mean you've heard some stories from Chef Akram no do we serve right now but this [1:25:06] countless stories abuse beatings violence sexual violence just power structures destroying lives destroying families exploitation money embezzlement countless countless like people they will extract this so much going on people or take money they will take a thousand pounds per you know more people have houses given to them I had somebody tell me about a case where the person said ok in order to cure this the evil Messiah on this house you have to really [1:25:44] just give it away in the name of Allah and really you should just maybe you should just give it to me and all blessing and they did they gifted it to the the chef then I mean this is when I hear these stories I realize I'm in the wrong business that's the business you need to be in so this is so it's the abuse that's being and will this abuse because it's being is llama sized it's been given an Islamic vignette what's going to take the brunt of in the end is Islam so people will just say you know what Islam is just a load of nonsense and you might [1:26:22] not say I might not say but the coming generations our children when they grow up they probably say you know this is just mythology Islam has just become mythology like Zeus and Apollo and the Greek gods or the Hindu gods it says store reason because it's nonsensical so I wanted to highlight that and I want to show some when we can't explain things okay when we can't explain that just to us as a few seconds to touch-up we have to understand that look in science science has has gone through many like when we [1:26:59] look at the domain of life it is so diverse and this is something I want to come back to when we speak I just want when I touch up on relationships being impacted with this but when when we can't understand things look in psychiatry and psychology you've got something called neurosis and psychosis yeah neurosis is like well when it's like weird things we had beliefs that we can all have or we display weird things and we can all do this is a natural to a great extent we can all I'll probably say we are all weird in our own way there's nothing wrong about that okay to ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 7z8yu8Kr83Y/s/17. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/s/17/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.