# Are there authentic hadith of the Prophet casting a jinn out of someone? *The hadith cited for possession: none free of criticism, and the sound version mentions no jinn* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/s/13/ - Date: 2017-09-20 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Jinn Possessions: Myth and Reality in Islam by Sh. Akram Nadwi & Mufti Abu Layth (1:02:31–1:09:02) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z8yu8Kr83Y&t=3751s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/ **Topics:** Jinn possession; Authenticating hadith; Individual hadith explained **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** None of the hadith cited for possession is free of criticism; the only sound version, Uthman ibn Abi al-As in Sahih Muslim, mentions no jinn, as al-Nawawi notes, and the 'come out, enemy of Allah' reports are weak. The Prophet, a mercy to mankind, would not have left such a thing untaught. **Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says not a single hadith cited for possession is free of criticism, that the sound version of Uthman ibn Abi al-As's report in Sahih Muslim mentions no jinn, as al-Nawawi notes, and that a Prophet sent as a mercy would not have left a phenomenon affecting everyone untaught. **Evidence, his words at 1:04:29:** “he never transmits this he doesn't teach people about this and think think about it this is going to impact us all every day and he forgets to tell us” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z8yu8Kr83Y&t=3869s) ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth says not a single hadith cited for possession is free of criticism: many are simply weak, a few rise above that but none is unquestionably sahih, and he asks his listeners to consider that the Prophet, sent as a mercy to mankind, never clearly taught about something that would affect everybody every day. The first report, from Ya'la ibn Murra of Thaqif, who accompanied the Prophet on a journey and said he saw three things nobody else saw, including the Prophet telling a woman's crying child 'come out, enemy of Allah, I am the Messenger of Allah'; its narrators have been criticised, and he finds it absurd that the Prophet would show one man a phenomenon affecting everyone and teach no one else how to protect themselves. The second is Uthman ibn Abi al-As of Thaqif, who came in the delegation of year nine: the sound version in Sahih Muslim has him say only that he struggles with the Quran, and the Prophet taps his chest and sends him to lead his people, who are of mixed abilities, after which the Quran stayed with him; the versions in which he says he has a shaytan and the Prophet spits lightly and commands the enemy of Allah to come out are weak, and al-Nawawi, commenting in Sahih Muslim, says all the versions concern one incident, that nothing in them proves possession, and that his struggle was probably ill health or a touch of pride at leading his people. The third, from a woman who said her grandfather brought an ill child and the Prophet said 'come out, enemy of Allah', is heavily criticised, some calling it weak and some very weak. Nothing sound, he repeats, for so ubiquitous an event. ## Sources and names cited - report: yala ibn murra said i saw three things from the prophet including that he said to a boy come out enemy of allah i am the messenger of allah - Ya'la ibn Murra - report: uthman ibn abi al-as said i struggle with the quran and the prophet struck his chest and said go and lead your people - Uthman ibn Abi al-As al-Thaqafi - Sahih Muslim - al-Nawawi - Sunan Ibn Majah - al-Tabarani - report: a woman related that her grandfather brought an afflicted child and the prophet said come out enemy of allah - da'if (weak) - sahih ## Transcript (machine tier, 1:02:31–1:09:02) [1:01:54] devil has anybody seen a devil so how do they know what that's supposed to mean when you say that oh this tree looks like it's the heads of Devils I haven't seen a devil that's because it's okay you have imagined Allah knows ezel imbecile teehee he knows they have creation that they have imagination and then what's interesting he has a side note is that in life the most intimidating and frightening phenomenon that you will ever encounter right [1:02:33] throughout life contrary to what you may think is actually your own imagination your own imagination is far more scarier than anything actually out there what you actually imagine scares the hell out of you so Allah is growing upon the imagination of people so this verse is one of the key verses that is misused or misinterpreted by people who grupe drew into this or draw upon this whole x-gene demonic possession kind of narrative a [1:03:12] few hadith I want to highlight as well and I'm sure the sheriff will be highlighting as well several perspectives but just popularly these are brought to the disco straight away because I wanted to take a look at the religious kind of aspect first and the kind of rational and then come back to the psychological and stuff like that in the in the second section so there's a few had the three hadith first of all I just want to highlight there isn't a single sorry sorry hadith in this bar not a single hadith that is free of criticism [1:03:51] there are a few hadith I mean there are many hadees which are just completely week or week there are certain which rise above that weakness thing and I'll just highlight the two or three that are usually used in this context but there is nothing which is sorry and sorry unquestionably so as in is free from criticism taking into consideration like just take this point into consideration that the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam has come as a paragon of mercy for mankind not just for the Sahaba or for the people around him for [1:04:29] ever and he never transmits this he doesn't teach people about this and think think about it this is going to impact us all every day and he forgets to tell us or he chooses not to tell us clearly I mean think about it so the hadith that are usually used is a hadith to do with there's a transmitter yeah like Nomura that he accompanies the Prophet he's a person from beneath a thief who accompanies the Prophet on a journey and he says that I saw three things which nobody else saw and one of them was that when the Prophet was [1:05:08] walking past this lady on a journey she had a baby was crying and the Prophet said okay knee exercises this and he brings out this diamond this is one narration that is used not a stab not sorry I mean some have tried to argue it to be sorry but not unquestionably sorry so as in is not free from their owie is usually the popular revert of it is man jalapeno armor it's been criticized you've got people like Abdul Rahman but whoever is in the chain has had criticism okay second hadith to hide and the fact that this hadith actually says I saw three things one of them this which nobody else saw and the gene [1:05:47] affects everybody and the Prophet decided to just show one person and never tell the other people in itself is absurd that the Prophet wouldn't teach us how to protect ourselves second understanding a second hadith is one of Earthmen enable us once again from beneath that if the is thought of he who comes to the Prophet in a delegation in 93 and he complained now this hadith is transmitted in different books one in Sahih Muslim and in other books even imagine the brawny and generation kind of varies a bit the sahih narration which is sound is that it comes to prophet and he says that I'm [1:06:25] struggling with the Quran this is what he says and he says I'm struggling with this inside Muslim and he doesn't mention exactly what the struggle is but he says that I struggle with the Quran and the Prophet says to him he tells him and in the hadith he kind of Fedora by Sabra who be yeti-like he kind of like taps his chest with his hand and he tells him that on McCormick's go and lead your people for in them in home of the evil away and they've got different mixed abilities in them you are strong people weak people so on and he says after that wallahi the Quran was always with me like I never [1:07:03] now in other narrations that narration is sahi other narrations which are criticized and weak and some people have tried to say they're okay but they they not sound as in they're not unquestionable they've been questioned and weakened by some people that he says oh I've got a Shaitaan or and the Prophet says he kind of aspirates like just but that kind of tougher what we call in Arabic and it's like slightly with salivated aspiration I've got like this towards him and and and he opens his mouth and and he says oh I do Allah come out the enemy of Allah and and something comes out this is not [1:07:43] established okay Imam no we when commenting on this inside Muslim says all of these rewards they are talking about one kissa and he says that and there is no evidence in these that is to do with jinn possession he says that this is most likely he says when he was struggling with the Quran it was either health o Imam no he says maybe it was kibble that he felt arrogant that he was leading his people and so this is what Imam no we highlights on this and he says that this is the narration in which none of this is mentioned there's another hadith which people bring quite a bit which is to do [1:08:23] with a woman a burn once again very criticized that she speaks about her grandfather saying her grandfather came with the child saying that the child is ill and the Prophet says you know same kind of thing overage yeah I do a lot come out or enemy of Allah and they saw something coming out heavily criticized some people just say by Eve some people said it's very weak and some people try to strengthen these incidents but once again nothing sorry sorry for such a ubiquitous event for something that would affect everybody the Prophet doesn't really transmit anything in ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 7z8yu8Kr83Y/s/13. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7z8yu8kr83y/s/13/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to 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