# The caller from Canada: trolling, the word Qadiani, and pictures of Mirza - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7eer9uka1ea/s/3/ - Date: 2020-03-31 · Kind: other · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Responding to Qadiani Trolls | Mufti Abu Layth (4:01–9:16) - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EER9UKa1eA&t=241s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7eer9uka1ea/ **Topics:** Ahmadiyya and false messiahs; Dawah and debate culture **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth recounts telling a caller that the trolling did not suit him and asking whether he believed Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a prophet, then mocks pictures of Mirza on screen. ## Longer summary After a sound check with viewers on YouTube and Facebook, Mufti Abu Layth recounts his conversation with the caller. He says he told him nicely that he was fed up with people sending him the same video and that this bullying and trolling did not suit him. He asked the caller whether he believed the man from Qadian to be a prophet; the caller objected that the word Qadiani is derogatory, and Mufti asked why, since that is where his prophet is from. He then brings up pictures of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad on screen and, amid laughter and music, repeatedly asks whether his eyes are open or closed, saying he is bothered by it. He returns to the caller, who said he genuinely believed, and says he told him he was being picked on and mixed up with someone else. ## Sources and names cited - Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian ## Transcript (machine tier, 4:01–9:16) [3:50] call me so like several times from Canada otherwise so I answer it and it's some guy saying assalamu alaikum thank you hello hello all right so so now I get this call and this person there's no voice somebody said there's no voice is there no voice [4:22] hello hello this is picking up voice testing testing it is picking up voice over here let me check the Voice works we can hear you okay excellent excellent so if you can't hear me give me a shout so this person called me and we have a chat and you know I said to him that look I'm uh I made it clear to this person I said look I'm getting fed up with all these kind of videos people are sending me the same video and I'm saying it nicely as well I'm saying yeah nicely [5:04] you know this kind of bullying and uh trolling it doesn't suit you here sitting in a library somewhere you know like yeah right so you know this this this doesn't suit you just chill out relax until this guy anyway is chatting he's going oh uh I said to him look can I ask you then a question do you believe in cardiani to be a prophet he goes oh I don't like the word [5:42] katiani you know kadiani's derogatory I said why isn't this where you're profit is from I'm having a few people repeatedly saying the sound is is off is it I I hope it isn't let me bring up the Facebook people as well so just to make sure that Facebook can they can [6:11] all right let me just check people just give me a shout is if the sound is fine they're saying it's fine cool all right awesome so let me also whilst I'm talking I'm going to bring up people um the who we're talking about right we're talking about I don't I don't mean to bring up the toilet here naughty naughty you teasing me right so I'm meant to be bringing up our off oh oh [6:52] you know [Laughter] hi hi foreign [Music] so this this one this one is our you know when you look at uh kadiani Sab and you think to yourself that you know you think to yourself [7:24] what a prophet that God chose [Laughter] I honestly want to ask right that is this seriously why are his eyes like that yeah is he is his eyes closed or are they open uh honestly I'm really bothered about um this is a serious question right [7:51] you know you guys you see the other thing is you guys ain't taking me seriously but just look at those eyes are they closed are they open okay [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [8:27] [Music] so as it happens this person called me and he had a chat with me and he said well look um you I really believe in I asked him do you really believe genuinely I want to ask you genuinely believe it but no problem look I said I'm not a gay like you you're mixing me up [9:06] you guys are you know you're you're picking on me yeah so I'm I'm telling you look okay let me ask you some questions then do you really believe in uh being the the prophet of God so this guy said 150 percent I said Java ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 7EER9UKa1eA/s/3. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/7eer9uka1ea/s/3/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. Ask a qualified scholar about your own situation.