# Why might Abu Bakr have refused Fatima's claim so quickly?

*Summing up Fadak, and a speculation on why Abu Bakr refused*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/51qevhjqnt4/s/6/
- Date: 2020-02-28 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Fadak between Fatima (r) & Abu Bakr (r) Detailed Overview | Mufti Abu Layth (25:05–28:19)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Qevhjqnt4&t=1505s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/51qevhjqnt4/

**Topics:** Succession and the first civil wars; The companions

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth speculates, stressing it is only speculation, that the size of the claim at a time of crisis may have led Abu Bakr to refuse it at once.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth speculates, stressing it is pure speculation, that the sheer quantity of Fatima's claim may have led Abu Bakr to deny it instantly.

**Evidence, his words at 25:43:** “I did feel that maybe because for tomorrow deal on her in her claim asks for so much the quantity is so much maybe that was overwhelming which led to an instant denial” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Qevhjqnt4&t=1543s)

## Longer summary

Mufti Abu Layth sums up that on the argument of inheritance he feels Fatima was right, while on the argument of fay' land gained without combat belongs to the public welfare, and he falls in line with that. He shares what he stresses is pure speculation: that because Fatima claimed so much, the sadaqat of Madinah, Khaybar and Fadak, at a time of distress when tribes were withholding zakah and Usama's army was being dispatched, the quantity may have led Abu Bakr to deny it instantly. He says this is said with love for all the Companions, whom he regards as human beings who disagreed and made mistakes, and that such issues cannot be resolved but can be clarified.

## Sources and names cited

- Fadak
- Fatima
- Abu Bakr
- the ridda wars (refusal of zakah after the Prophet)
- Usama ibn Zayd

## Transcript (machine tier, 25:05–28:19)

[24:25] in his in his lifetime as a Calif and and and I feel that none of the Shia responses seem to make sense of one of the Shia kind of students of knowledge did say to me that this was a metaphor photic it was never about for that he was a metaphor about the Kaylee the the caliphate so when for tomorrow Dylan came to a worker she really came saying that he ought to be the Imam I found that a bit weak as well because one it just doesn't really sit right - if she's coming to him a worker then she's kind of acknowledging that he's the Imam and I don't know but so I wanted to really go over this and sum this up that the key

[25:05] issue here I felt that for tomorrow the law on just in the argument of inheritance I felt that she was kind of right that prophet to inherit and you can't really use that as an argument that's my personal understanding however from the argument of faith the lands are an imam gains during non-combatant kind of war that i would feel doesn't doesn't become his personal property it becomes the property of the general public the welfare so I would

[25:43] fall in line with that so I think that would really be the crux of this issue I did have a little theory as well and I don't mean to this is just coming from you know we were just discussing this and so this this could be completely off but I'll just share it with you I did feel that maybe because for tomorrow deal on her in her claim asks for so much the quantity is so much maybe that was overwhelming which led to an instant denial because she asks for the Tzadik art of Medina opening of the year of Hebert a father she asks for all of that

[26:21] maybe I just thought I mean and this is just this is pro spec this is pure speculation but I felt maybe because it was so overwhelming and in the time of our Kurt is that this social distressed is the masala Malekith herb this you know there's all these things people bunny honey for saying we're withdrawing our resources we're not gonna pay anymore we're not gonna give the card we're not gonna give funds what do we do there's an army of osama already being dispatched where did they get the resources from and all of a sudden fatima of the law on her comes and she doesn't just ask for a particular asked for the medina resources she asked for

[27:00] the haber resources for further so i felt maybe it was kind of overwhelming quantity you know from a quantitative approach and that's why maybe a worker of the law and just instantly denied it and if it hadn't been that much maybe he won't have dinner i don't this is pure speculation i don't mean to you know this is with the utmost love for all of these companions i absolutely I do love them I'm not somebody I disagree in that sense with the the Shia approach I do you know believe and I've got a video

[27:39] that look all the companions I kind of love them i I do feel that they were human and the absolutely human it's not that they were kind of angels or anything and and naturally they would have had disagreements and made mistakes but but I just feel that this maybe that's what led to that each the hardy respond it's that immediate response because you see the other companions do disagree with overcurrent later on but I hope that's of some help I just want to sum that that there is no you can't resolve these issues but at least you can have some clarity on them guys I hope that's of some help let's

[28:18] move on we've got the masala to get to as well I've been asked right about somebody said just to follow up on that somebody said so what he did was wrong you see I believe I'm in line with al-baqarah de la on he's thinking in terms of faith so the argument from Fay I feel a worker is right the only problem is in the hadith it doesn't mention that it mentions the argument from point of inheritance now inheritance I feel Fatima of Delano was

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 51Qevhjqnt4/s/6. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/51qevhjqnt4/s/6/

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