# What do you think of a particular online activist?

*His view of an online activist, Hizb ut-Tahrir and 'taking over the world'*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/1zghntbmpis/s/33/
- Date: 2021-01-12 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #197 | Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:19:13–2:22:25)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgHntbMPis&t=8353s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/1zghntbmpis/

**Topics:** Extremism, crime and justice; Views on contemporary scholars

**Question as asked:** What are your thoughts on [name unclear in the captions]?

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth warns that anyone who says Muslims need to take over the world should set alarm bells ringing.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says that anybody who tells you that we need to take over the world should set alarm bells ringing.

**Evidence, his words at 2:21:08:** “anybody who's just after political you know global domination anybody who tells you that we need to take over the world” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgHntbMPis&t=8468s)

## Longer summary

A chat question asks his thoughts on a figure whose name is garbled in the captions [?]. Mufti Abu Layth says that, from what he knows and from the man's own past posts during an online clash a couple of years earlier, he considers him an extremist and a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, which he calls a cancer for the ummah for advocating military coups in Muslim countries, and sympathetic to Osama bin Laden. He says such extremists have softened their tone because the younger generation does not accept it. He warns that alarm bells should ring whenever anybody says we need to take over the world.

## Sources and names cited

- Hizb ut-Tahrir
- Osama bin Laden

## Transcript (machine tier, 2:19:13–2:22:25)

[2:18:38] researching something and i might message some of hamdi sabs team i might just say look you know is this what does ram desa believe on these matters god forbid that they give a straight answer [Laughter] they never give me another like they never give a straight answer to me ever like they just don't you know they just like fob me off always but dr shahzad if i message him straight away as soon as he sees it he just responds yes that's what he believes he told me this personally or no you know he can keep it brief but he's very much love and respect

[2:19:13] to dr shahzad celine right all right all right so what is going on people uh mufti what are your thoughts on billy hussein my thoughts on him are as good as my thoughts on on this

[2:19:50] uh kung fu technique by the brother so yeah people like that you see i to to be honest with you from what i know he is an extremist he is a hardcore member of hizbu taharir which is a cancer um for this ummah believing in just govern governing you know political power you should do military coups in muslim countries

[2:20:29] and even though i think he's toned down a lot of that because nowadays people ain't prepared to listen to accept that but from what i know of him very sympathetic to the osama bin laden kind of click and stuff like that and i'm not saying this himself on from what i've read a couple of years back because a couple of years back we had a a bit of a kind of clash online on facebook his own posts were saying things like that that that's one of his ideal figures was osama bin laden um he may have hidden that post now because of um obviously you see the zeitgeist has changed now so these

[2:21:08] extremists the thing with them is they have to soften down their tone because they're not going to be you see the younger generation don't buy that kind of nonsense so now i don't know whether he openly speaks as much but that's the problem you know if somebody is like that you have to be weary same thing with all of this you know this ht kind of or anybody who's just after political you know global domination anybody who tells you that we need to take over the world

[2:21:46] you know alarm bells should be ringing a cha-cha take over the world cha cha cha cha so that's uh that's the problem you know anybody who says that to you we need to take over the world ah i bet you wait here so yeah bro [ __ ] on mind trap oh that would be good i i think maybe bro [ __ ] might come on you see i sympathize with bro [ __ ] because i i really like him i have much love for bro [ __ ] we disagree theo you know theologically ideologically but

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment 1zgHntbMPis/s/33. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/1zghntbmpis/s/33/

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