# The preacher on DMT: 'no proof of the unseen', and tahajjud instead - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/s/52/ - Date: 2021-02-16 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #202| Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:59:48–3:05:48) - Status: a view quoted in order to be discussed, not a position held - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--PntsaR8ck&t=10788s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/ **Topics:** Psychedelics; Spiritual experience and psychedelics; Responses to critics **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth ridicules the preacher's claim that there is no scientific proof DMT users reach the unseen, asking what such proof could even look like. ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth plays the preacher's section on DMT, which says it is produced in the mind, is called the spirit molecule, relates to the pineal gland, and that there is no scientific or religious proof that those who take it enter the world of the ghayb (the captions render the word as 'rape'). Mufti mocks the wording and asks what scientific proof about the unseen could even be expected, since the ghayb is by definition what God has kept veiled. He plays the preacher's conclusion that spirituality is attained through qiyam al-layl and tahajjud rather than DMT or psilocybin, and responds with praise he signals is ironic before saying he will speak seriously. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Asrar Rashid [?] - DMT - DMT: The Spirit Molecule - ghayb (the unseen) - tahajjud - psilocybin ## Transcript (machine tier, 2:59:48–3:05:48) [2:59:48] dmt they say dmt is produced in the mind when [Laughter] i think what he wanted to say is in the brain but jello in the mind in the mind if you want it's in the mind don't worry about it sure it's in the mind dmt they say dmt is produced in the mind when a person who's they the six-year-olds that play in that corner or something [Laughter] and some of them refer to it as the [3:00:27] spirit molecule they say it's a spirit molecule the pineal gland is is contained within the middle can everybody just take a moment and please do that out of honor for our beloved you see if sheik from that side is doing it at me from this side we can almost make a love heart uh [3:00:55] [Laughter] you do it from that side i'm doing it from this side we're making a love heart [Music] pay attention of the brain [3:01:24] this is one of the early works on dmt you'll find this work online meaning it's available to purchase i forgot the name but dmt the spirit molecule actually hallucinative drugs drugs which give you hallucination there is no scientific or religious proof to say that when people consume dmt they are entering the world of the rape [Laughter] what scientific proof would you get anyway about the rape there's no scientific [3:02:05] proof to tell you that you've gone into the right [Laughter] i mean what is what what were you what was sheikha expecting here i mean let's just be honest like what would be that scientific proof anyway what would it like the scientists would say yep we can confirm you went there and there happened to be uh you know fifteen thousand angels that were around you and [3:02:39] i mean what is the scientific proof about the rape how does that even make any sense the rabies the the unseen from a religious perspective the you know the world which god has kept veiled so how could science say anything about that anyway doesn't it but anyway let's go back to please please please to speak and speak please please evaluate is attained through kia mule [3:03:17] right i think you guys missed this i gotta explain this to you guys look people here the question is asked the question is asked that if that be so dmt cannot give you spirituality let's say how does one attain spirituality you know the sheikh is now highlighting don't take dmt abe sheikh's not saying like this but i'm interpreting on behalf of the sheikh that look at salo don't take dmt this one destructive you know [3:03:57] no dmt don't take dmt what should you do what should you do people this is what you should do to say that when people consume dmt they are entering the world of the rape evaluation is attained through layla you should spirituality is attained through tahajjud pre-torn prayer reality is attained [3:04:28] so basically just to be clear sheikh's message is people don't try dmt pray at least to behave you know this one this is beautiful speech you know this one it's very beautiful honestly i'm being serious here man you know wake up in the night and pray that [3:05:08] oh yeah you gotta love it though you gotta love the sincerity you know spirituality isn't attained through uh psilocybin or dmt spirituality is attained through hajjut [Laughter] honestly i can't i can't get over it but people you know the whole point is we have to remember the uh the whole [Laughter] and keeping in mind the sheikh is now embarking ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment --PntsaR8ck/s/52. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/s/52/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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