# Did Abu Hanifa allow nabidh only as medicine? *A preacher's lecture on drugs: Abu Hanifa and nabidh were not about medicine* - URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/s/50/ - Date: 2021-02-16 · Kind: lesson · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #202| Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (2:41:57–2:54:22) - Status: general teaching - Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--PntsaR8ck&t=9717s - Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/ **Topics:** Intoxicants and substances; The Hanafi school and Imam Abu Hanifa; Responses to critics **Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth says the reports Abu Hanifa's school transmitted, of Umar and Ibn Mas'ud drinking and diluting nabidh, are about drinking with food, not medicine. ## Longer summary Mufti Abu Layth turns to a lecture by a preacher he calls 'our beloved', apparently Shaykh Asrar Rashid [?], on cannabis, marijuana and DMT, saying it naturally declares them haram. He plays the part where the preacher answers those who cite Abu Hanifa permitting nabidh in small amounts, saying the fatwa of the school is not given on that statement and that Abu Hanifa meant medicinal use. Mufti, who amuses himself with the pause button, reads in reply from Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybani, much of the Arabic being missing from the transcript: Ibrahim al-Nakha'i's account of Ibn Mas'ud serving nabidh with food, the report that a strong nabidh is what digests camel meat, Umar tasting a drunk Bedouin's strong nabidh and diluting it with water, and reports on making nabidh from different fruits. He says this has nothing to do with medicine and that it is Imam Muhammad, a Hanafi, transmitting it. ## Sources and names cited - Shaykh Asrar Rashid [?] - Imam Abu Hanifa - nabidh - Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybani - Ibrahim al-Nakha'i - Abdullah ibn Mas'ud - Umar ibn al-Khattab - Hanafi school ## Transcript (machine tier, 2:41:57–2:54:22) [2:41:17] officers that would be giving reports you would have uh the judges would look at testimonials they would look at listen to circumstantial evidence also take into consideration the the you know the backdrop to why this happened and then they would rule so that's fine and that is islamic all right people alright let's uh i think we've had quite a bit let's move on people let's move on so time has come people our beloved [2:41:56] let me add a little bit of advice so people are beloved right i want to share a little um of his lecture he did a lecture on cannabis marijuana just naturally saying it's haram but let's go through a bit of it and then speaking about dmt as well and as you can some people quote this the statement to validate a deviant interpretation they say [2:42:35] permitted nabeed in small amounts right so [Laughter] pause there my beloved pause so what is right so if let me just check a little stunt whilst i'm doing this if i was to do this and then do this and then bring this back would it be [Music] [2:43:10] where i left it let me see [Laughter] you're teasing me ah it is i've clocked this now i'm really enjoying this now so beloved is going is speaking and what is this thing about is those of you that don't know he's speaking about [2:43:45] drugs and he wants to speak about intoxication and he wants to speak eventually about dmt so he begins by speaking about imam abu hanifah why imam abu hanifa because things are attributed to imam abu hanifah regarding nabeed but what is ah below it going to say so let's see people right so he begins with this quote the statement of ali to validate a deviant interpretation they say al-imam abraham [2:44:24] in small amounts as long as it does not intoxicate therefore they say in drinks that are intoxicants other than wine can be taken in small amounts the answer is that firstly the fatwa is not given according to that statement in the school archive so firstly the fatwa is not given secondly secondly as he's elaborated upon yeah i did [2:44:56] oh yeah i did bring ah where do i put oh people [Laughter] this is relax this is a vitamin vitamin vitamin let's see i brought this let's let's see in other words but the statement of should be taken in its true context what is that true context i mentioned elsewhere that al-imam [2:45:36] was was mentioning this in terms of medicinal use with regard to nabeed and people said uh that i have said this without reference but there is there are references for this uh for quick citation purposes quick i'll draw your attention uh for taking cannabis falls under is [2:46:19] i said that this people are using imam abu hanifa one of our teachers used to say like that so he he's saying people are quoting imam abu hanifa from foreign [2:47:31] he mentions a story he says i used to be weary of drinking nabeeth and he is he's having it as part of food sorry he's having food so i began eating with him he was brought a jug of nabeed [2:48:24] so he mentions that ibrahim tells him this story so he's going from his teachers that when they would go to abdullah bin masood he would bring nabeed and give it to him huh medication this is what we take and it is the position of abu hanifa right now what about the next one he mentions a hadith from uh he says from the muslim [2:49:09] muhammad says this is what we take nabeet was intoxicating a slightly weakly intoxicating drink how do we know that this one so muhammad says abu hanifa told me he goes on through the chain that um that muslims have camel for their food as in for meat well and then he goes on mentions and he says [2:49:46] the only thing that really settles this meat and digests it is a strong nabis drink and he says now you could say well this one no intoxicating what's the next one next one proximo okay so muhammad from abu hanifa says um [2:50:17] a bedouin was brought to him that he was drunk he was drunk people so he he tried to kind of basically they tried to justify it but this person had lost his he was out of it yeah he took they told him you know detain him [2:50:46] and they were gonna lash him when he wakes up he says bring what he had in his you know they would have that drinking pouch bring that let's see what he's got in there he drank it he tasted it he was like [2:51:16] says he says it was a strong uh what is it nabith that he had in his what he had been drinking what he was drunk from and he says this is one that whoa it was difficult so he said bring some water diluted it [2:51:44] um he would love the strong kind of nabeed that was had somewhat low levels of alcohol in it and he drank it and he gave it to people around him allah he said omar said you know the nabis you drink if the devil of it becomes intense meaning the intoxication is strong dilute it with water [2:52:20] and that is what we take and then he goes on check this out he's speaking about different kinds of nabeeth made from bitter from melon made from asir he mentions um about how to ferment it and things like this then he says [2:52:53] so he mentions that's so this is not nothing to do with medicine when abu hanifa is quoting omar radhiallahu and he's quoting abdullah then he's telling who is quoting uh ibrahimovic and these people having it at food and inviting other people to drink and in the case of omar when the person's got so drunk and then he tastes and says whoa that's too strong you know what dilute it with water this is not medicine [2:53:34] these are not nice that is very clear and this is who's book am i bringing this maliki is bringing this chavez no no this is imam muhammad ibn hassani right so now let's go on right so we've got here [2:54:21] it so mind you he quote who he quotes here about kind of about cannabis is he does say the person speaking about hashish says that in if this was established that it isn't intoxicant then it is haram that some of them said if it's an intoxication then if it intoxicates then it's nudges some of them said i don't know by the way why he keeps defining ## Cite Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment --PntsaR8ck/s/50. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/s/50/ Not a fatwa: these answers were given to specific people at specific times. 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