# Can atheism explain consciousness?

*Atheism collapses at consciousness and the quantum world*

- URL: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/s/31/
- Date: 2021-02-16 · Kind: question · Transcript tier: machine · Recording: Monday Nights with Mufti #202| Q&A Unscripted & Unrestricted! 😉 | Mufti Abu Layth (1:42:23–1:46:51)
- Status: general teaching
- Watch from the start of the segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--PntsaR8ck&t=6143s
- Recording page: https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/

**Topics:** Atheism and the existence of God; Soul, nafs and consciousness; Science, the universe and big questions

**Question as asked:** Can you do a video analysis on 'The Real God: An Epiphany'? It's by an atheist who makes a strong argument.

**Summary (not a quotation; machine-made, unchecked):** Mufti Abu Layth says atheists have strong points, but their case collapses at consciousness and quantum physics; atheism only works against Newtonian, institutional religion.

**Checked position (checked by two independent reviews, not by the channel):** Mufti Abu Layth says that while atheists have strong arguments on many things, overall their case collapses when it comes face to face with consciousness.

**Evidence, his words at 1:42:23:** “i believe they have strong arguments on many things but overall it all collapses when it comes face to face with consciousness all of their arguments collapse” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--PntsaR8ck&t=6143s)

## Longer summary

Asked to analyse an atheist YouTuber's video 'The Real God: An Epiphany', said to make a strong argument, Mufti Abu Layth says he has not watched it. He says atheists have strong arguments on many things but their case collapses when it faces consciousness, leaving them with blind faith, since they cannot explain the mind or where ideas exist. He says atheism, like much institutionalised religion, works at a Newtonian level and is lost in the quantum world, citing his MindTrap guest Professor Mir Faizal [?], a quantum-gravity physicist who challenged Lawrence Krauss to a debate on God which, he says, Krauss declined. In the twenty-first century, bringing in consciousness, he says atheism does not stand a chance and ends up answerless.

## Sources and names cited

- Professor Mir Faizal [?]
- Lawrence Krauss

## Transcript (machine tier, 1:42:23–1:46:51)

[1:42:23] mufti can you do a video analysis on the real god an epiphany he's an atheist called dark matter who makes a strong argument i'll have to watch that i haven't watched it i don't know what that's about i honestly don't believe the atheist argument is a strong argument honestly don't um no no okay let me get this right i believe they have strong arguments on many things but overall it all collapses when it

[1:43:00] comes face to face with consciousness all of their arguments collapse and they're just left with fine we won't believe you know it's not it you're they're left with just a blind faith once again in because how do you explain consciousness you know the mind being able to have ideas how do you explain this and you can't seem to explain it where does it even exist how do you explain the quantum world

[1:43:40] see this is why atheists are still atheism works at a newtonian level ironically that's where a lot of institutionalized religion works as well friend friend beyond you see once you go into the quantum world a lot of institutionalized religion collapses or he gets lost and confused and atheism seems to be confused as hell as well because they they can't even under because see the quantum this thing has changed the game it's just people don't understand this stuff that's the problem

[1:44:20] you know i have had dr professor meer faisal on many of my on a few of my mind traps amazing one of the leading quantum physicists in the world today and one of the key experts on quantum gravity you know a huge like a pioneer on it worldwide who is a director of in canada for the center researching quantum gravity i mean he's got i believe 150 uh world acclaimed articles on quantum

[1:45:00] physics and especially quantum gravity he has challenged many professors including uh i mentioned before professor lawrence krauss to a debate on god and professor lawrence krauss declined you know why they decline because it's you know because they are in a league of their own because they're so clued up on this stuff and regular people ain't but if you meet somebody that's so clued up in quantum physics and quantum gravity it you just can't get around that and and and it will make your arguments look silly

[1:45:40] but it's just that the public don't understand quantum physics so to them they're still operating at a newtonian level so they still see the world how newton explained it so to them they say oh but god but he doesn't exist we can't see him oh we can't do we're in the quantum world today you know that physics has been updated these arguments are very difficult to stand so atheism only works against institutionalized religion because institutionalized religion also operates at a newtonian level but if you're going to

[1:46:18] operate in the 21st century and you're going to bring consciousness into it as well atheism doesn't stand a chance because it just ends up being the same as institutionalized religion it just ends up having blind faith in just saying well okay we don't know but it doesn't have an answer it ends up being answerless

[1:46:50] the quran does refer to them as chosen implying there's something special about that um particular i thought after abraham prophets would be only from his line you see it doesn't say in the quran that prophets were only from abraham's line doesn't say that anyway in the quran that would not have been the case but it says that allah says look we have favored bani israel but yes they may have been favored in certain things and other people may have been favored in other certain things so

## Cite

Mufti Abu Layth Archive, segment --PntsaR8ck/s/31. https://muftiabulayth.org/r/--pntsar8ck/s/31/

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